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post #11191 of 18082

Hehe, I remember, you dislike capacitor coupled. Another reason to go Stax, pretty much all their amps are class A dc coupled goodies. Don't know if their tubies are considered OTL or what other topology, though...

post #11192 of 18082
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post


I hear a dark voice in my head that sez no. It's OTL capacitor coupled, no. Looks nice though.
Just for the sake of craziness..and for the heck of it....check the 339 thread..maybe just maybe u stumble upon people saying there (well at a certain point u wont have any knees left because of all the stumbling hehehehe ) that a 339/337 is perfect to drive a he500... I Just read there is a new owner on his way wink.gif oopsie...
U cant say a certain built is per definition bad or best for othodynamics..(as long it has at least 1w into 35ohm) its like saying an SS amp is always cold and powerful..or that a tube amp is always warm and slow....or that an opamp amp is always unreliable etc... Some builders just know how to find a way to overcome the borders of the different kind of amps... I long time ago left those kind of thoughts..those narrowminded thinking that this kind of amps is better for something then others..more important is thow THEY sound on different phones...and how they are built...quality and soundwise..not what kind they are.
Edited by hifimanrookie - 1/22/14 at 1:00pm
post #11193 of 18082
Then you have people who say the $2000 transformer coupled WA22 doesn't sound as good for the HE-500 as the $200 Emotiva MiniX. Before you know it you're in way over your head and you realize the only way to have it all with orthos is getting a Blue Circle. Or do like me and get out of orthos altogether and get the HD800. wink.gif
post #11194 of 18082
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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post

Then you have people who say the $2000 transformer coupled WA22 doesn't sound as good for the HE-500 as the $200 Emotiva MiniX. Before you know it you're in way over your head and you realize the only way to have it all with orthos is getting a Blue Circle. Or do like me and get out of orthos altogether and get the HD800. wink.gif
Ur right..i heard that too!! From two owners! That expensive amp is not really a good pairing with the he500..but with the hd800 it shines i understand.. So u see...big money doesnt mean it is good pairing for any headphone.. U just have to find that synergy.... And the 337/339 has that..and am glad there are more and more people finding that out...its affordable and built to last...but its not a everyones amp...no it wont drive a he6 and i didnt like it with any audeze..but with the he500 and hd650.... Bliss.. So u have to be sure what u want..as upgrading later to another headphone could be tricky..the emotiva is a more general amp...its not the best in soundquality i understand..but it drives everything well and to a certain quality..especially for the price its almost flawless... But there are better amps out there for the he500 wink.gif
post #11195 of 18082
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

 

If was to get a serious tube amp, I'd go for bigger bucks and get a pure tube amp that could also drive low impedance cans like the HE-500's. That means a tube amp with a quality output transformer, $650 and upwards. Not this week. :D

 

I can appreciate all that.

post #11196 of 18082
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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post

Then you have people who say the $2000 transformer coupled WA22 doesn't sound as good for the HE-500 as the $200 Emotiva MiniX. Before you know it you're in way over your head and you realize the only way to have it all with orthos is getting a Blue Circle. Or do like me and get out of orthos altogether and get the HD800. wink.gif

 

Well looks like you got two very nice rigs there together with both the HE-500 and the HD800.

 

Tube amps are dangerously difficult to classify, but I think the generalisations out there don't particularly help and to me they seem to be really all over the show when it comes to pricing. I just enjoyed reading up on the Apex Hi-Fi Teton and thinking that must be a freakin' nice amp for the HE-500 till I found the price tag... :eek:  I guess the what you see is what you get approach with solid state amps does appeal to me, like you know the HeadAmp GS-X mk2 will sound good straight out of the box. Still would love to hear one of those 337/339 one day. Will probably end up in China sometime later this year and go visit a couple of high-end headphone stores. The store where my HE-500s came from apparently had a rather nice collection of tube amps. 

post #11197 of 18082
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post

I can appreciate all that.
Like a cary SLI80.. A monsta tube amp with a million tubes in it biggrin.gif .one certain kittycat here has one... wink.gif
@dearron... A GOOD tube amp is mostly much much much much more expensive to built then ur general SS amp..thats why the better STRONGER tube amps with for instance supercaps are expensive...and keep on being expensive as they need lots of tubes..a affordable SS amp has a big printboard, a big transformer and some big (budget) chinese made caps to generate power..and thats it..ofcourse when u go up the ladder in SS amp land..then it gets more exotic also..and immediately more expensive..but get to powerfull to drive a headphone very fast.....
Adn when u do are in china..try to find a 337/339.. U will be surprised .thats all i have to say about that tongue.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 1/22/14 at 1:31pm
post #11198 of 18082

Am actually quite digging the HE-5le with modded pleathers and x-can/mini-x combo. Not perfect or anything (as it's no 'stat:p), but does have a seductive sound that I can zone out to. Powerful bass, dynamic (almost too much coupled with that raw quality) and very intimate sound, now with no unnatural sibilance. The frequency response and to some degree technicalities are heard better but it isn't always about that you know ;)

 

Am happy, got my fix. New toy syndrome factor would be over the clouds if it wasn't for school tomorrow. Good night, over & out.

post #11199 of 18082
Over the clouds in what sense? wink.gif
post #11200 of 18082
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post

Over the clouds in what sense? wink.gif

Litterally perhaps. Who knows when the hours are late, right? Didn't I say I'd go to bed 15 minutes ago? Am already 2 hours short of sleep.

post #11201 of 18082
In a few days, the 500's will arrive...Is pleather or velour generally preferred- Or should I skip these and go straight to Jergpads? (already have a pair for my 400's made by Modulor) Thanks for any insights.
Edited by Zuckfun - 1/22/14 at 3:06pm
post #11202 of 18082
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Originally Posted by Zuckfun View Post

In a few days, the 500's will arrive...Is pleather or velour generally preferred- Or should I skip these and go straight to Jergpads? (already have a pair for my 400's made by Modulor) Thanks for any insights.
Modulor..just rip the ones u have from ur he400 and put them on ur he500.. And try out the grill mod... wink.gif
post #11203 of 18082
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Modulor..just rip the ones u have from ur he400 and put them on ur he500.. And try out the grill mod... wink.gif
Thanks...Jerg after all did invent the mod for the 500. Nice to give these pads the proper home.
post #11204 of 18082
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post
 

Hehe, I remember, you dislike capacitor coupled. Another reason to go Stax, pretty much all their amps are class A dc coupled goodies. Don't know if their tubies are considered OTL or what other topology, though...

Stax, ha, you really enjoy spending other people's moolah. Capacitors can become nonlinear when carrying power which also generates heat, something of which most fat capacitors do not like. Also you get phase shifts and a big cap carries charge. Too much weirdness for me. I just picked up an Asgard 2 SS amp. It's low feedback (none in high-gain) Class A with DC coupling. Very low distortion and good power. Really good engineering and it sounds great. It's a careful design to operate in the linear region and keep that a large region. Someone did a good job.

post #11205 of 18082
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


Just for the sake of craziness..and for the heck of it....check the 339 thread..maybe just maybe u stumble upon people saying there (well at a certain point u wont have any knees left because of all the stumbling hehehehe ) that a 339/337 is perfect to drive a he500... I Just read there is a new owner on his way wink.gif oopsie...
U cant say a certain built is per definition bad or best for othodynamics..(as long it has at least 1w into 35ohm) its like saying an SS amp is always cold and powerful..or that a tube amp is always warm and slow....or that an opamp amp is always unreliable etc... Some builders just know how to find a way to overcome the borders of the different kind of amps... I long time ago left those kind of thoughts..those narrowminded thinking that this kind of amps is better for something then others..more important is thow THEY sound on different phones...and how they are built...quality and soundwise..not what kind they are.

I just feel that I can get great sound without tubes, I like clean and a good clean tube amp costs plenty more and is big, heavy, hot, etc. I think the Asgard 2 is a homerun, you can spend more but gain nothing, unless you want to imagine it. The only reason you need more is for special driving conditions like the really power hungry planars like an HE-6 or for driving electrostatics.

Since I want clean, I'm not into tube rolling and am not looking for entertainment other than with listening to music. That just how I feel and wouldn't think of denying someone's hobbyist pleasures but will state my case to balance the scales when someone is influencing the uninitiated.

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