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@hifimanrookie I thought the code-x was a modded he5 and had wood cups - what model is the base for yours?

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@hifimanrookie I thought the code-x was a modded he5 and had wood cups - what model is the base for yours?

The HE-5 but with black wood!

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@hifimanrookie I thought the code-x was a modded he5 and had wood cups - what model is the base for yours?


also HE5 and completely woody...but its made special for me by Luis so had some extra special attention given to it....is black colored with very special dye and sealed with bee-wax.(and not with the more modern enviromental friendly oils)..like they did in the back old days when we didnt have aeroplanes...and why those old stuff still exists...

 

until now of the orginals its the only one who is blackish..as if u look closely its a very very dark brown..almost black..its  very omnious..very dark..no gloss!.......rest of the 19 codex-ses are 'standard'  wood brown with standard oil finish...

 

@textfeud..thanks!


Edited by hifimanrookie - 1/15/14 at 3:36pm
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Painted black, or were the cups created from black wood?

Nevermind, just saw your post, thanks. Congrats!
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I just bought the HE-500, it's just that there are new models around the corner (he-560) so i'm not sure if should be happy that i paid "only" 490 € for 3 months old he-500.

But logically speaking new models don't make the soundquality of the older ones obsolete.

 

For now i'm curious if i will be satisfied with the he-500

/rant

 

I wouldn't be too worried. I think you got a good price, and even though there's a new HE560 on it's way, there will also be a new successor to the HE-6 around the corner which will push down the price of the HE560. 

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I wouldn't be too worried. I think you got a good price, and even though there's a new HE560 on it's way, there will also be a new successor to the HE-6 around the corner which will push down the price of the HE560. 

Why would the HE-6 successor push down HE560's price? It (the successor) is undoubtedly going to be priced around HE-6, which is nowhere close HE560's price.

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I wouldn't be too worried. I think you got a good price, and even though there's a new HE560 on it's way, there will also be a new successor to the HE-6 around the corner which will push down the price of the HE560. 


i think they will position that new one above the HE6 pricewise to compete directly to the new lcd's

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I wouldn't be too worried. I think you got a good price, and even though there's a new HE560 on it's way, there will also be a new successor to the HE-6 around the corner which will push down the price of the HE560. 

Why would the HE-6 successor push down HE560's price? It (the successor) is undoubtedly going to be priced around HE-6, which is nowhere close HE560's price.

 

I'd suspect that many people will buy the HE560 to compare it to the HE-6, or want a lighter headphone, and when the HE-6 successor arrives they'll sell them off. In addition an influx of HE600s means more headphones for the same number of ears. 

 

Edit: Of course, all speculation here out


Edited by elwappo99 - 1/15/14 at 3:57pm
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I'd suspect that many people will buy the HE560 to compare it to the HE-6, or want a lighter headphone, and when the HE-6 successor arrives they'll sell them off. In addition an influx of HE600s means more headphones for the same number of ears. 


or people like me (or he6 owners) just wait for the new high end phone of hifiman ;).. for me its just waste of money (IMHO) to buy a 560 if i want a phone bettering the code-x i have now or the he6

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or people like me (or he6 owners) just wait for the new high end phone of hifiman ;).. for me its just waste of money (IMHO) to buy a 560 if i want a phone bettering the code-x i have now or the he6

 

I didn't think the Code-X had been compared to a HE-6 by a reputable reviewer yet? Can you link to it?

 

I still would have a hard time thinking the HE-5 drivers would be capable of coming near the HE-6. The HE-5 drivers were really Dr. Fang's first foray into planar magnetics, and had a few notable flaws outside of  resonance issues. I had them both at the same time for an extended period, and the HE-6 had noticeable driver changes done. I'd be cautious to drop that much cash on an untested headphone based on known design issues. 

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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

I'd suspect that many people will buy the HE560 to compare it to the HE-6, or want a lighter headphone, and when the HE-6 successor arrives they'll sell them off. In addition an influx of HE600s means more headphones for the same number of ears. 

 

Edit: Of course, all speculation here out

Yeah but just because they are selling it off in the near future doesn't mean the price is going down in any significant way. I mean 2nd-hand HE560s might go down in price slightly and transiently due to a temporary boost in supply:demand ratio, but the stable 2nd-hand price of the cans will be based on their own merit.

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I didn't think the Code-X had been compared to a HE-6 by a reputable reviewer yet? Can you link to it?

 

I still would have a hard time thinking the HE-5 drivers would be capable of coming near the HE-6. The HE-5 drivers were really Dr. Fang's first foray into planar magnetics, and had a few notable flaws outside of  resonance issues. I had them both at the same time for an extended period, and the HE-6 had noticeable driver changes done. I'd be cautious to drop that much cash on an untested headphone based on known design issues. 


the first 9wner of a code-x compared them to a he6.. did say they were better.. but google for 'measurements code-x' and maybe u will find an indication of what the code-x is..just see the code-x as improvement over a he5 as the paradox is for the fostex..and u know how big that differnce is right?.

 

but i just had a first listen to it on my speaker receiver.. and it was for sure more neutral then the he500 i had..and in my opinion the soundsignature is more open and more 3d... compared to the he500 ofcourse.\

 

edit..i agree with jerg's last post here

 

second edit..i dont think a, as u call them, reputable reviewer will ever review an original code-x..as there are only 20 original code-x'ses (made from NOS HE-5) made and sold to lucky people spreaded all over the world...the rest will be made from existing (sent in) USED (and sometimes abused) he5's


Edited by hifimanrookie - 1/15/14 at 4:29pm
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post
 

 

I'd suspect that many people will buy the HE560 to compare it to the HE-6, or want a lighter headphone, and when the HE-6 successor arrives they'll sell them off. In addition an influx of HE600s means more headphones for the same number of ears. 

 

Edit: Of course, all speculation here out

Yeah but just because they are selling it off in the near future doesn't mean the price is going down in any significant way. I mean 2nd-hand HE560s might go down in price slightly and transiently due to a temporary boost in supply:demand ratio, but the stable 2nd-hand price of the cans will be based on their own merit.

 

 

Guess we'll see in time ;). My point was that buying a He-500 isn't necessarily a bad move because planar magnetic headphones really don't fluctuate a whole lot in price. 

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Guess we'll see in time ;). My point was that buying a He-500 isn't necessarily a bad move because planar magnetic headphones really don't fluctuate a whole lot in price. 


ofcourse buying a he500 is not a bad thing! its a wonderful phone...no matter how many new phones come out in recent times... for the price its still unbeatable in my book.. ;)

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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post
 
 


the first 9wner of a code-x compared them to a he6.. did say they were better.. but google for 'measurements code-x' and maybe u will find an indication of what the code-x is..just see the code-x as improvement over a he5 as the paradox is for the fostex..and u know how big that differnce is right?.

but i just had a first listen to it on my speaker receiver.. and it was for sure more neutral then the he500 i had..and in my opinion the soundsignature is more open and more 3d... compared to the he500 ofcourse.\

 

 

 

Was just searching for them. Interesting stuff. Seems the traditional HE-5 driver issues are still pretty pronounced, just smoothed out a bit. There are some odd artifacts that showed up as well in the bass which seem to be introduced by modding them. Still has the HE-5 bass roll off, and treble heat. 

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