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post #1096 of 18018

all three HD800,D7K and HE500 are much better than the HD650. IMO all three are more refined and much mire accomplished than the HD650 and I enjoyed the 650 but not in the same class as the other three IMO.


Edited by Frank I - 4/4/12 at 7:31pm
post #1097 of 18018

Anyone know what would be a better pairing with the HE-500 between a dacmini or a bifrost/lyr combo?


Edited by mac336 - 4/4/12 at 8:17pm
post #1098 of 18018

Woo audio WA6SE is probably one of the best under 1500$
 

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Anyone know what would be a better pairing with the HE-500 between a dacmini or a bifrost/lyr combo?



 

post #1099 of 18018

looking to keep it under 1,000

post #1100 of 18018

Burson (HA-160D or HA-160DS) is, probably, the way to go for an "all-in-one" solution for any headphone around USD$1'000,00. Or, if you want something much more analytical (but with far less impact) the CEEntrance DACmini is a great choice.

 

I prefer Burson tough, but it's a personal choice (as always). I tend to like having my headphones on the analytical side (detail-full) and my DAC on a more "warm", less cold detailed and more impactfull. But that, again, is a very subjective opinion and truly based on nothing but, say, "audio taste". 
 

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looking to keep it under 1,000



EDIT: This is based only on what I read around here, I've never heard the DACMini. I intend to buy it, though, in a near future as second or third desktop headphone system (and them compare it with my Burson DA-160 DAC).

 

Just for curiosity: I intend to have three desktop headphone systems (one with an all-in-one-box "internal hi-fi DAC and headphone amplifier" SACD player, one with a DACMini as DAC and HP-amp and another - which is the one I already have - with the Burson DA-160 and Lyr). Them I intend to stop expending money around audio equipments for a good while, at least.


Edited by faverodefavero - 4/4/12 at 10:51pm
post #1101 of 18018

what exactly do you mean by "impact"?  

 

More bass?  Or a more colorful presentation?

post #1102 of 18018

 mac336 View Post

 

To my ears:

 

A more colorful experience, and a bit more bass as well. The Burson products are not really "neutral" in my opinion, they do tend for the warm (to hell with this word)...

 

What I'm trying to say is that some sound frequencies (to my ear, at least) will be indeed more pronounced them others with a Burson DAC (yeah, a lot of audiophiles seem to like it), and in a natural or "lifelike" kind of way. That's probably because this is achieved trough electrical signal "manipulation/treatment", if I may say so, and not "digitally" (I mean it happens after the digital part, right when the signal is converted and is "out" of the DAC chip). But know that this kind of "coloration" is commonly associated with reduced soundstage and less noticeable detail presentation (I agree with the second part, as I leave soundstage to the headphones/speakers).

 

You see, when this kind of thing (let's call it "frequency enhancement")  happens electronically and not digitally (messing with the iTunes or any other player EQ) things do seem to sound more pleasing and "real" and not distorced/forced/noizy. I - for example - really don't like, if I'm paying attention, the sound when any software EQ is used but I don't mind a bit of "unneutraility" if it happens in the analog part of the signal.

 

PS: Mind you, please, I'm not an acoustic/electric/computer engineer. I just really tried - hard - to fully explain how I feel when hearing different kinds of  "colorations" added to the sound signal (colorations made via very different ways). 


 

 


Edited by faverodefavero - 4/4/12 at 11:47pm
post #1103 of 18018

lol, thanks that cleared it up for me.  I think ill go for the dacmini as its cheaper

post #1104 of 18018

I would suggest a good look at the bifrost/lyr combo...

 

I haven't heard the bifrost so can't speak to the sound of it but it seems to be well reviewed and with the ability to upgrade in the future it may be a more sound budget choice. The Lyr sounds amazing IMO with the HE-500 and you can get both for under $1000. Another benefit is that down the road if you like the Lyr but want to upgrade the bifrost (or vice versa) you have that option. The Lyr is also serving as a very passable preamp in my (humble) speaker rig.

 

The variety of options/uses of the bifrost/lyr combo are worth considering....

post #1105 of 18018

I second this. The Lyr/Bifrost combo that I currently use with the HE-500/LCD-2 rev.2 sounds amazing with both sets of cans. Very affordable, powerful, revealing and looks great too!

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Anyone know what would be a better pairing with the HE-500 between a dacmini or a bifrost/lyr combo?



Violectric V200 with a variety of good DACs have gotten very positive feedback.  One to add to your checklist.

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I second this. The Lyr/Bifrost combo that I currently use with the HE-500/LCD-2 rev.2 sounds amazing with both sets of cans. Very affordable, powerful, revealing and looks great too!



Which do you prefer: the he-500 or LCD-2?

post #1108 of 18018
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Violectric V200 with a variety of good DACs have gotten very positive feedback.  One to add to your checklist.



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Which do you prefer: the he-500 or LCD-2?



You're not asking me but I'll reply anyway :p

It's almost impossible to pic a fav because they both have their own strong points. I love both and switch all the time. Comfort wise I prefer the Hifiman's but a lot of people don't.

post #1110 of 18018

Ultrainferno has the right idea. I love both the HE-500 and LCD-2 rev.2. They both have strong points, few negatives and leave me very satisfied with the listening experience. I have upgraded to these, somewhat downgraded to the Schiit Lyr/Bifrost combo for amp/source (coming from a WA6SE) and could not be happier with the decision. The unit is compact and the sound quality on the delicious side of neutral/revealing. Really does sound like a wire-with-gain setup, most days. Also, these orthos give the distinct impression that they are almost speaker-like in their soundstage and more-so how nicely separated almost aspects of the frequency spectrum are. The soundstage may not be the widest/deepest, but I like where my ears sit within. There is no straining. Little fatigue.


Edited by sampson_smith - 4/6/12 at 7:03am
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