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Opps - caught a typo - Fixed it for you
Lolz..thanks my friend... what would i do without u biggrin.gif
post #10922 of 18019

I'm slowly but surely reading through this thread but have a question since I am potentially interested in purchasing the HE-500's in the next week or two. I currently own a Burson Audio HA-160DS which is basically a HA-160D with a few things taken away, I believe the amp and DAC portions are identical. How do the HE-500's sound with the HA-160D/DS? Would this be a good match? I am kinda new to the world of orthodynamic's but after hearing rave reviews and these I am very interested.

post #10923 of 18019
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transformators...

 

 

:biggrin:

post #10924 of 18019
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:blink: Stingray :blink:

 

Why the confused look?

 

And why do you get so confused by that? I've heard the HE-6 on many speaker amps, and the Stingray sounds the best.


Edited by Austin Morrow - 1/9/14 at 2:53pm
post #10925 of 18019
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Originally Posted by Olympus Mons View Post
 

I'm slowly but surely reading through this thread but have a question since I am potentially interested in purchasing the HE-500's in the next week or two. I currently own a Burson Audio HA-160DS which is basically a HA-160D with a few things taken away, I believe the amp and DAC portions are identical. How do the HE-500's sound with the HA-160D/DS? Would this be a good match? I am kinda new to the world of orthodynamic's but after hearing rave reviews and these I am very interested.

Decent fromwhat I have heard - but no more than that.

 

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But at a HUGE price...2900usd and then u have to get the right quality amp to drive it perfectly...2500usd also? Thats huge amount of money most of us cant even think of to pay for headphone audio. But iif i really would go the stax road..i would get the sr009.. Even if it would be a second hand one wink.gif

Is not cheap.. Nobody says you have to start out with a $+2k amp, even a decent speaker amp and something like the woo wee can do pretty good. If I really wanted to I could pick up a woo wee and 007 for little under 2000$ locally... But as I have no amps that really do the 007 justice... and it's mk 2.5 also.. and a lot of money as well.. But some day ;)

post #10926 of 18019

The thing about Stax is...

 

0.2mm diaphram excursion vs. 2.5mm of the LCD-2 (probably even more for the HE-500)

 

That's 12 times less dynamic impact and slam/moving of air. 12 TIMES!

 

People talk about Stax not having the proper weight to the notes and having a odd euphonic coloration. Actually sounding better than reality etc. And I agree with this.

 

I would rather have the proper impact/slam/weight to my music while sacrificing a little bit of micro-detail extraction.

 

I haven't had a chance to live with any Omegas so I can't say anything definitive, but my brief encounters have me left me sort of underwhelmed. The only Omega I'm interested is the 007 MK2, which is considered the worst of the bunch. LOL.

 

But with headphones like the LCD-X/HE-6 I can probably have my cake and eat it too if I wanted more resolution + impact.


Edited by M-13 - 1/9/14 at 3:38pm
post #10927 of 18019
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 

The thing about Stax is...

 

0.2mm diaphram excursion vs. 2.5mm of the LCD-2 (probably even more for the HE-500)

 

That's 12 times less dynamic impact and slam/moving of air. 12 TIMES!

 

People talk about Stax not having the proper weight to the notes and having an odd euphonic coloration. Actually sounding better than reality etc. And I agree with this.

 

I would rather have the proper impact/slam/weight to my music while sacrificing a little bit of micro-detail extraction.

 

I haven't had a chance to live with any Omegas so I can't say anything definitive, but my brief encounters have me left me sort of underwhelmed. The only Omega I'm interested is the 007 MK2, which is considered the worst of the bunch. LOL.

 

But with headphones like the LCD-X/HE-6 I can probably have my cake and eat it too if I wanted more resolution + impact.

Have never really been able to wrap my head around the esoteric 'stat sound, as I doubt it's only about low distortion and noise.

 

Yeah, the impact isn't really the same, yet my LS sounds more thundering and deep than my HE-500 when the bass is called for. I don't care too much for impact in headphones anyway.. Have speakers for that and I find headphines to be so far away from the real deal in bass anyway as there's no real physical aspect of the bass..

I'm all in for resolution across the frequency ranges with my higher end desktop rig(s). Also in the bass, you can have resolution without planar impact. 

post #10928 of 18019
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Have never really been able to wrap my head around the esoteric 'stat sound, as I doubt it's only about low distortion and noise.

 

Yeah, the impact isn't really the same, yet my LS sounds more thundering and deep than my HE-500 when the bass is called for. I don't care too much for impact in headphones anyway.. Have speakers for that and I find headphines to be so far away from the real deal in bass anyway as there's no real physical aspect of the bass..

I'm all in for resolution across the frequency ranges with my higher end desktop rig(s). Also in the bass, you can have resolution without planar impact. 


True... when comparing to speakers I can see how headphone dynamics/slam is kind of pointless and unnecessary.

 

As for the euphonic Stax sound. I think the refresh rate is too fast. What I mean by this is when you go look at modern UltraHD 4K TVs with a 600 Hz refresh rate. It looks so smooth... smoother than reality. It's gorgeous yet somehow it's now how reality looks if I went to a real life football game. Looks better than reality. Haha.

post #10929 of 18019
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^^ That mirrors where I'm at with the speculation on the new 560 and how I feel about the current 500. The only reason that the he500 is not end game for me is the weight. 425 grams is my comfort ceiling...anything past that point and it will become fatiguing after an hour. 

 

Now if the 560 can bring the same beautiful darkness and neutrality that the he500 offers, then Christmas will come a little late for me. :biggrin:

500 is endgame for me in sound. But if I can have the sound in a more comfortable package, I'm going for it. I personally hope the 560 is equal or BETTER (dare we dream it?) in sound while being super comfy. The most comfortable phones I've tried have a nice suspension headband. Combined with lighter weight and then if the pads are more comfortable...

 

Although I am in the camp that doesn't care for the connectors. Over time they always loosen on me.

post #10930 of 18019
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post
 

Have never really been able to wrap my head around the esoteric 'stat sound, as I doubt it's only about low distortion and noise.

 

Yeah, the impact isn't really the same, yet my LS sounds more thundering and deep than my HE-500 when the bass is called for. I don't care too much for impact in headphones anyway.. Have speakers for that and I find headphines to be so far away from the real deal in bass anyway as there's no real physical aspect of the bass..

I'm all in for resolution across the frequency ranges with my higher end desktop rig(s). Also in the bass, you can have resolution without planar impact. 


Interesting, I would love to hear them.

post #10931 of 18019

Let's put it this way.  Last nite, I was listening to Brian Bromberg on HD800/WA22.  It was very clean/clear and dynamic but I didn't feel shiiit.  I got bored quickly and switched over to HE500/Emotiva and my toes started tapping.

That's the magic of HE500 for me.  Enough said...:beerchug:

post #10932 of 18019
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Let's put it this way.  Last nite, I was listening to Brian Bromberg on HD800/WA22.  It was very clean/clear and dynamic but I didn't feel shiiit.  I got bored quickly and switched over to HE500/Emotiva and my toes started tapping.
That's the magic of HE500 for me.  Enough said...beerchug.gif

That's part of the problem with Head-fi. Some of us listen to gear and some of us listen to music. It's hard to tell which camp everyone is in. I'm here for the music.
Edited by Radioking59 - 1/9/14 at 11:04pm
post #10933 of 18019
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

Let's put it this way.  Last nite, I was listening to Brian Bromberg on HD800/WA22.  It was very clean/clear and dynamic but I didn't feel shiiit.  I got bored quickly and switched over to HE500/Emotiva and my toes started tapping.

That's the magic of HE500 for me.  Enough said...:beerchug:


Awesome! :beerchug:

 

Haha. Another late night session for me with the HE-500. It sounds better than the LCD-2 tonight. One of those nights where the magic of the HE-500 has me captivated even after 4 hours in. Not to mention 2 years of ownership.

post #10934 of 18019
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 


Awesome! :beerchug:

 

Haha. Another late night session for me with the HE-500. It sounds better than the LCD-2 tonight. One of those nights where the magic of the HE-500 has me captivated even after 4 hours in. Not to mention 2 years of ownership.


Every night is a late night with HE-500 for me :)

post #10935 of 18019
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Every night is a late night with HE-500 for me :)


:beerchug: Thank god for my HE-500 brothers!

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