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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post
 

Nah, many of us are sceptical...

 

 

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Originally Posted by Austin Morrow View Post

I'm extremely skeptical...

 

 

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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Cant believe i am saying this..as its the first for me to be skeptical about a new product from hifiman...yes i am also a bit afraid that its not an improved he500. redface.gif

 

 

Yea i'm not sure what that thing is either... the HIgher Number is... maybe an indication of performancs but I have no clue either 

 

also

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Originally Posted by ardgedee View Post

I pulled my HE-6 out of storage last weekend and reacquainted myself with its advantages (that bass, that midrange) and disadvantages (like clamping velvet-padded bricks to my head).

If the ergonomics on the new models are better, that alone can justify the price. The original assembly was plagued with problems which were eventually ironed out, but I suspect that Hifiman has been wanting something that's both less finicky to build and more robust in the user's hands. It looks like the cable sockets on the new models are at the 5:00 position rather than at the bottom of the headphone. That's good too.

Orthos are heavy because the driver is a thin metal-impregnated sheet of plastic moving within a strong magnetic field. The best way to get a strong magnetic field is to use massive sheets of magnets. This is why the flagship neo-orthos are so massive (well, that and the housing strong enough to keep massive sheets of magnets from ripping themselves from the mount).

The HE-400 was always Hifiman's lightest ortho because it only used a sheet of magnets on one side of the driver. I assume the new headphones are lighter because they're using fewer magnets that are more powerful. Although this would leave an opening for a yet-improved ortho that's just as heavy and uses the better magnets.

My own wishlist of improvements to the HE-6 would include ditching the SMC connectors for something easier to plug/unplug and more robust, and better internal wiring (what's in there now is circuit board jumper wire). You can get these as aftermarket mods, and though they're simple improvements they're not cheap since they require disassembling the phones and desoldering/resoldering the driver. We'll see what Fang comes up with at the top end of the range, I guess.
 
It could be lighter more comfortable ortho's
 
and price is 499 for the 400i apprently and 899 for the He 560 

Edited by Mshenay - 1/9/14 at 7:22am
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And NOW people start to agree with me...

post #10878 of 18079
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post
 

And NOW people start to agree with me...

thanks I have no clue what or who your talking to :D 

post #10879 of 18079
I for one have embraced the the idea that the HE-560 is better. At first I was like the rest of you, skeptical. But after doing some introspection, I realized it was more driven by fear that my current gear and headphones will become outdated. But looking at the big picture I realized I should not be fearful and selfish for new products to fail so I can still have the best. For the audiophile community as a whole, it is better for advancement and improvement. When I saw the 90 dB SPL number, it eased my mind that the HE-560 was going the direction I wanted, and now I have hope it's the best one yet! Or at least it improves upon the HE-500.
post #10880 of 18079
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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post

I for one have embraced the the idea that the HE-560 is better. At first I was like the rest of you, skeptical. But after doing some introspection, I realized it was more driven by fear that my current gear and headphones will become outdated. But looking at the big picture I realized I should not be fearful and selfish for new products to fail so I can still have the best. For the audiophile community as a whole, it is better for advancement and improvement. When I saw the 90 dB SPL number, it eased my mind that the HE-560 was going the direction I wanted, and now I have hope it's the best one yet! Or at least it improves upon the HE-500.

I do think it will be better, Hifiman has made nothing but really wonderful products, an the new head band design is proof they have been listening to our compliants! Heres to hoping they throw a tour together or that I can attend a Head Fi to hear them :3 

post #10881 of 18079

2 years is a long time in driver advancements. The only thing that is questionable is how much better it can be over the HE-500? A deal on an HE-500 at $580 or so, vs. $899... that might be the hard decision.

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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

I do think it will be better, Hifiman has made nothing but really wonderful products, an the new head band design is proof they have been listening to our compliants! Heres to hoping they throw a tour together or that I can attend a Head Fi to hear them :3 

 

The headband has never been a problem for me, it's a minority. What wasn't a minority was the horrendous connectors.

post #10883 of 18079
Oh come on. The connectors are FINE. The only thing "wrong" with them is that they aren't universal among most headphones. They're super easy to use / put on and get the job done.
post #10884 of 18079
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post

Oh come on. The connectors are FINE. The only thing "wrong" with them is that they aren't universal among most headphones. They're super easy to use / put on and get the job done.

 

I don't think so...

 

:o

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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

2 years is a long time in driver advancements. The only thing that is questionable is how much better it can be over the HE-500? A deal on an HE-500 at $580 or so, vs. $899... that might be the hard decision.

580 bnew? Where?
post #10886 of 18079

I think lots of people in this thread have early-adopters' bitterness / bias at the moment. If the HE560 turns out to be better in ergonomics AND sound quality, then so be it.

 

At the moment there is zero in-depth impressions of its performance on the Internet still, except Cnet's Guttenberg's very positive early words. So if you are already making assumptions that it should be worse-sounding than HE500s, you are just deluding yourself.

post #10887 of 18079
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

I do think it will be better, Hifiman has made nothing but really wonderful products, an the new head band design is proof they have been listening to our compliants! Heres to hoping they throw a tour together or that I can attend a Head Fi to hear them :3 


While I love my HE500 very much, I don't see/understand why the new 560 would not be good.  Hifiman would not risk their current reputation by putting out a mediocre product.  The way I look at this, the new HPs could be a side grade in sound signature/flavor with physical improvements such as headband/weight...

post #10888 of 18079
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

I think lots of people in this thread have early-adopters' bitterness / bias at the moment. If the HE560 turns out to be better in ergonomics AND sound quality, then so be it.

 

At the moment there is zero in-depth impressions of its performance on the Internet still, except Cnet's Guttenberg's very positive early words. So if you are already making assumptions that it should be worse-sounding than HE500s, you are just deluding yourself.

+1.

Except that, I haven't read a negative reviews from the Cnet guy for a while.  ;)

post #10889 of 18079
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post

Oh come on. The connectors are FINE. The only thing "wrong" with them is that they aren't universal among most headphones. They're super easy to use / put on and get the job done.
I have to agree..but at first iwasreally cursing those connectors when i got my first hifiman, the he300... But after first twisting them a bit before putting them on they almost automatically fix themselves..never had a problem with loose connectors..but then again..i on,y put a cable on..only once..and only take it off when upgrading cable or phone...
To be honest i didnt have any complaints with my he500.. Especially after the headband mod, the extreme opengrill mod and the modulor pads..
And more important..they are short! I specifically asked LFF not to put his mini xlr's on my code-x.. As that would make the whole connector thingie to large and it would be pushing into my shoulders wink.gif only thing i hope is that he has put the connectors a but more up..as the audezes has..that was a mastermove of audeze! And looking at how its manufactured..it doesnt look to difficult..just and extra piece of pyramid formed metal in between..but hey am no technician. wink.gif
post #10890 of 18079
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Originally Posted by Austin Morrow View Post
 

 

The headband has never been a problem for me, it's a minority. What wasn't a minority was the horrendous connectors.

 

Hey call the local news..  Austin Morrow and I agree on something. 

 

I also think the connectors are horrendous.  If they sound good I will get them hardwired.  As I've done all my HiFiman headphones.

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