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Edited by BrainFood - 4/8/12 at 6:16am
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I just picked up a 2 meter Q cable as well.  Seems like it'll be worth it.  I really dislike the stock cable as far as look/feel go.  I'll be interested to see if there's any sonic difference since I'm not really a believer.  A lot of people have said a lot of things about different headphone cables though in terms of sonic qualities.  I'm too lazy to do abx or anything like that, since it doesn't matter too much for me.  I'm not really getting it for the sound anyway.  If it sounds like it's better than it'll just be a bonus mental or actual effect.  Either suits me just fine.

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I'm the opposite.  I want a cable that is sonically better.  I could care less if it looks or feels good.  I hear a difference therefore I don't mind spending the money.  But in the end, there is only one way to find out.  You buy it and if you don't think there is an improvement then you will have cured the curiosity and you won't ever have to spend money on another cable again.  Then you sell the Q so it is a loss of some money but consider it a rental fee.  One would say it is a win-win situation.  The downside is if you think there is an improvement then you've doomed yourself to a lifetime of aftermarket cables  biggrin.gif
 

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I just picked up a 2 meter Q cable as well.  Seems like it'll be worth it.  I really dislike the stock cable as far as look/feel go.  I'll be interested to see if there's any sonic difference since I'm not really a believer.  A lot of people have said a lot of things about different headphone cables though in terms of sonic qualities.  I'm too lazy to do abx or anything like that, since it doesn't matter too much for me.  I'm not really getting it for the sound anyway.  If it sounds like it's better than it'll just be a bonus mental or actual effect.  Either suits me just fine.



 

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Has anyone here taken a look inside their HE500s? What are the stock HE500 dampings used in the front and back of the driver?

 

Pictures would be very much appreciated but descriptive account of the damping would be helpful as well. I'm interested in doing some HE500esque damping for my HE400's (if they are even different, that is).



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I'm the opposite.  I want a cable that is sonically better.  I could care less if it looks or feels good.  I hear a difference therefore I don't mind spending the money.  But in the end, there is only one way to find out.  You buy it and if you don't think there is an improvement then you will have cured the curiosity and you won't ever have to spend money on another cable again.  Then you sell the Q so it is a loss of some money but consider it a rental fee.  One would say it is a win-win situation.  The downside is if you think there is an improvement then you've doomed yourself to a lifetime of aftermarket cables  biggrin.gif



I'm not saying that I don't want a cable that is sonically better.  It's just I'm not sure if any cable will offer any improvements, so I've convinced myself to buy it out of curiousity and just the desire for something that won't die if i run it over with my chair a few times. smily_headphones1.gif

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There is no damping on the front. When you remove the pads, you can see the driver directly.

 

I dont know the back though.
 

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There is no damping on the front. When you remove the pads, you can see the driver directly.

 

I dont know the back though.
 



 



I see. Yeah RhythmDevil confirmed that there's no damping whatsoever, at the back is the bit of foam around the edge for resonance control only.

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Coincidentally after ordering a new cable, my stock cable is starting to fail I think.  The right channel on the hifiman connector, probably the solder point failed would be my guess

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Coincidentally after ordering a new cable, my stock cable is starting to fail I think.  The right channel on the hifiman connector, probably the solder point failed would be my guess



 

Happened like this with my HE-5LE, left channel started to fail (always thought it was the cable) a bit every now and them until - one morning - I put them on, as usual (having used them with no problems at all the night before, and having always taken great care of it), and the left channel was dead. Tried everything, new cable, changing cable channels, using different amplifier, etc. The left driver itself was just dead, no sound, out of nowhere... 

 

HiFiMan has, since, given me great support and I've already sent my HE-5LE to them for a replacement (they're even giving me a renewed guarantee on my new pair!).

Hope this won't ever happen with my HE-500 (I want them to really last, at the very least, ten - yup, 10, and I find it should be like that with ANY USD$500.00 or more electronic - years!

 


Edited by faverodefavero - 4/2/12 at 10:07pm
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Llloyd View Post

 

PS: http://www.head-fi.org/t/602716/audez-and-hifiman/30#post_8260479


Edited by faverodefavero - 4/2/12 at 10:07pm
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Thanks for the info, but it was the solder point that broke.  I was able to pull one of the wires out, i stripped a little bit off since there was very very little wire exposed, shoved it back in until I was sure it had solid contact, then just put a small bit of glue onto the part where it inserts into the rubber.  It's fine now and should hold until my new cable arrives.  I will contact fang after that.

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Glad to hear so! Great news! I mean, "no such bad news", at least. 

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Edited by faverodefavero - 4/3/12 at 12:15pm
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My HE-500 came in today and they sound great.  Ive been directly comparing them with my HD-600 and HD-650, and I can say that overall they do sound better but as of right now the sennheisers are sounding more "fun" to listen to to me.  My opinion might change by tomorrow or with more listening, but right now I cant say I like the he-500 over either of the senns.  Maybe its the difference in soundstage combined with a comfort factor, or maybe my ears are broken.  Ive been listening to FLAC quality music.  I'm powering them all with a NFB-12 so maybe the NFB is just a better pairing with the HD-650 than the he-500; however, the nfb-12 is able to drive the he-500 with ease so maybe not.  Maybe I just don't have an audiophile's ear

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 mac336 View Post

 

I think you're just too used with your old headphones sound signature, I had a hard time changing from K702 to Planar Magnetic Headphones. HE-500 is not just an upgrade (technically superior) to your HD650s, they're also a sidestep for you(in the sense that the sound is approached in a totally different way them the headphones you're used to hear). 

 

A more "direct upgrade" for your HD650s would obviously be the HD700 and HD800, they would directly improve almost - if not all - of HD650 characteristics. Having the same Sennheiser's laid-back and open soundstage sound signature (although, from what I've read about around this forums - never heard the HD800 or 700 -, the new Sennheiser's headphones have a soundstage that comes closer to the K701/K702/Q701 headphones then to the HD600/HD650, being really "super-opened and aired").

 

 


 

 

 


Edited by faverodefavero - 4/4/12 at 4:52pm
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I think your right.  The sound signature between the two is very different which is why I was having a hard time comparing them. 

 

 

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