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One thing i learned from own experience..NEW design AND NEW technology doesnt always mean better....some brands dont believe in pumping out new stuff every new year..but keep their tested stuff..tested for years by customers... With blue circle dacs u dont have software issues..it always works! And their products last a lifetime!

But as once said....u dont need to believe me...u keep on buying shiit that pumps out stuff every other year because people like u need or think new ways is good... I dont mind...we will see who laughs last biggrin.gif

See ya at a meet then with ur da8 wink.gif


But I've heard DAC technology is one area that keeps getting better with newer advancements and technologies like computers. :confused:

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But I've heard DAC technology is one area that keeps getting better with newer advancements and technologies like computers. :confused:

 

Only up to a point. The major development cycle through different DAC topologies and design happened in the 80s and 90s. Current DAC designs seem pretty incremental and more targeted at particular segments. Designs mostly seem to get outdated based on sample rates and inputs. I think the current sample rates today will stay with us for some time. 

 

It would actually be interesting to see what is technically possible with R2R and ladder DAC topologies with manufacturing techniques available nowadays and whether it would be possible to stretch them to 24-bits and higher sample rates. I'm not a huge fan of the aggressive noise shaping employed in current sigma delta DACs.

 

The problem with electronic components is that you still require volume to justify expenditure and going into production and that means manufacturing components that lends themselves to easy manufacturing without substantial cost and risk. It really limits the scope for boutique products.

 

Interestingly computers have also stagnated significantly and most of the innovation is mostly occurring in portable computing likes phones and laptops. If you have a 3-4 year old computer there is still no reason to upgrade. The PC world currently makes headphones seem quite exciting!


Edited by daerron - 1/6/14 at 11:54pm
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See ya at a meet then with ur da8 wink.gif

Hifimanrookie. I think you misunderstood what I wrote.

 

I was confused because:

 

I stated that I'm saving up for the $1300 DAC and you recommended a site that sells $8000 DACs. This is confusing no?

 

Please take the time to read what I write.

 

I did not say Blue Circle DAC is not good. I did not say DA8 is better. I did not say anything about new technology vs. old technology. Unless you're talking about website design? In which case, yes I did mention the Blue Circle website looks like something from the 90s. This is true, so not sure why you're upset.

 

I also pointed out that you take every opportunity to promote Blue Circle like you are the head of the marketing department who also makes comission. This is just how I feel after reading your recent posts. I'm sorry to say. Please start a Blue Circle appreciation thread and express your love for the brand. That would be awesome.

 

BTW did you listen to a Blue Circle DAC? Because I hope you did before recommending them to me or others.


Edited by M-13 - 1/6/14 at 11:56pm
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Just to be clear, I love u both in a non gay way. biggrin.gif
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emotiva and 337 are so yesterday. BC is the new Schiit. wink.gif
Edited by koiloco - 1/7/14 at 12:04am
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Just to be clear, I love u both in a non gay way. biggrin.gif
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emotiva and 337 are so yesterday. BC is the new Schiit. wink.gif


I love you too Koiloco. In a very very gay and inappropriate way. Hahaha

 

I actually love hifimanrookie too and like his passion for this hobby. I just get tempted to point out thing to him sometimes.

 

I must resist all further urges... I must!

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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

Hifimanrookie. I think you misunderstood what I wrote.

I was confused because:

I stated that I'm saving up for the $1300 DAC and you recommended a site that sells $8000 DACs. This is confusing no?

Please take the time to read what I write.

I did not say Blue Circle DAC is not good. I did not say DA8 is better. I did not say anything about new technology vs. old technology. Unless you're talking about website design? In which case, yes I did mention the Blue Circle website looks like something from the 90s. This is true, so not sure why you're upset.

I also pointed out that you take every opportunity to promote Blue Circle like you are the head of the marketing department who also makes comission. This is just how I feel after reading your recent posts. I'm sorry to say. Please start a Blue Circle appreciation thread and express your love for the brand. That would be awesome.

BTW did you listen to a Blue Circle DAC? Because I hope you did before recommending them to me or others.
Ur right..i get carried away a bit..and ur right abouttheir site..its horrible...and i didnt say also the BC. Stuff is better then the DA8.. The old vs new techlology was not directed towards u directly..just trying to make a point..
Thanks dearron for explaining it a bit more what i meant.

And i wish i was a marketing man of any brand..i for sure could need some more money for my new to buy speaker rig as i know those guys earn a lot! biggrin.gif

And ur right..its not right place to talk about BC. Stuff..my apologies..

And ofcourse i am not upset..am just debating with u... I love that..as most of u guys know by now tongue.gif

I promise to 'promote'. My stuff less..(i did same thing with my 337 and the modulor pads..remember?)..

As soon i have more info...i will just post a link to the thread i am starting soon concerning my new amp...ur welcome if ur interested to visit it.

And i love u both 2 in a very..certain way.. biggrin.gif
We are all passionate about our stuff..and me in particular.... U dont want me to start talking about cars and tuning..u wont survive it wink.gif


ON ANOTHER NOTE : i keep on being kicked out of safari on my ipad 3 with IOS 7.0.4. Never had that with IOS 6! Anyone experiencing that also? Its really annoying when u get kicked out while ur typing a post..it happened me many times now..i am starting to hate this ipad.. Grrrrrrr
Edited by hifimanrookie - 1/7/14 at 12:25am
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I am experiencing more crashes lately...though that could be because I just jailbroke my ipod a few days ago.

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@hifimanrookie, I think you are very fortunate to be able to purchase such high end audio gear while your ears will still appreciate it. How many of us can afford the good stuff, especially when it comes to speaker rigs, only once we are older and our ears aren't the same. Most of us have to carefully traverse the value for money path.. So I'd say enjoy your custom amp and modded headphones and enjoy treating your ears, but let us others enjoy our Emotiva blue circle Mini-X amps in peace! :D I am sincerely happy that there are companies out there like Hifiman and Emotiva making exceptional value for money gear.


Edited by daerron - 1/7/14 at 3:37am
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@hifimanrookie
, I think you are very fortunate to be able to purchase such high end audio gear while your ears will still appreciate it. How many of us can afford the good stuff, especially when it comes to speaker rigs, only once we are older and our ears aren't the same. Most of us have to carefully traverse the value for money path.. So I'd say enjoy your custom amp and modded headphones and enjoy treating your ears, but let us others enjoy our Emotiva blue circle Mini-X amps in peace! biggrin.gif  I am sincerely happy that there are companies out there like Hifiman and Emotiva making exceptional value for money gear.
Well..i also appreciate the effords of emotiva and especially hifiman..did u see my owned headphones? The last 3 are hifiman wink.gif and my new one will be one too..but modified wink.gif

..eventhough it maybe seems i have a bit of a budget now, that doesnt mean i dont appreciate quality stuff for affordable prices...I DO! Thats why i have a beautiful hard to get limited edition Oris automatic watch instead of a rolex or cartier...or any other higher end brand.
I never ever will buy stuff just because its expensive..no matter what my budget is...but i do like to be different then others and buy special stuff almost no one knows about..like my 337 or when i bought my first hifiman, almost no one knew that brand back then..only the summit fi people did on headfi wink.gif even the cars i owned wont be ur first choice if u know what i paid for them....but they all punched way above their price range...and thats what i am always looking for....excellent products for fair pricing... No matter what budget i have now or in the future..
And as i said before..i will be visiting the next european headfi meet with my new rig..and i will for sure be looking for a emotiva then..as i still need a affordable good amp for my study my..and i am seriously considering an emotiva...

And now back to by far my most favorite headphone until now..the wonderfull he500 wink.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 1/7/14 at 3:58am
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It's a lot of expectation bias on Headfi, it happens all the time.  Lots of people talk about their gear (that they have not yet got) as if it will suit their preference.  Yeah well, what are we suppose to do?  Yes, go to meets, go to audio stores, put your ears to as many different types of gear you can.  We have to "learn" what we like.  I know I have.  

 

I don't really like big meets for listening to gear.  All I do is talk to the guys there.  I do love to take my gear to audio stores.  I love having private mini meets with just 3 or 4 in a group.  It's very interesting to hear different impressions in a controlled environment

 

Lots of builders and compaines have very solid reputations.  I'am "Nelso Pass" kinda guy, he has certainly earned his reputation in the speaker amp world. 

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I love you too Koiloco. In a very very gay and inappropriate way. Hahaha

 

I actually love hifimanrookie too and like his passion for this hobby. I just get tempted to point out thing to him sometimes.

 

I must resist all further urges... I must!

 

Hate to break up this gay love fest, but I feel the urge to tell you... that no, you should not resist those urges.  I've been following your tête-à-tête, and I noted that hifimanrookie (I love you, man! even though you need to see a retail therapist to curb your obviously increasing symptoms) was putting words in your mouth.  There's no shame in setting the record straight, and you did so in all well-mannered, well-written way.  Of course, hifimanrookie is a bit... Tiggerish (see Winnie-the-Pooh, if you're not familiar with that term), esp. when it comes to things BC.  It's all in good fun, afterall.

 

Also, +1 on a Blue Circle thread.

 

OK, lovers, carry on ;)

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I just received my Denon D5000 and I'm kind of digging them. Just wish they would isolate a bit better. They also sound more open then I expected.

 

Still I like the HE-500 best but for when I need a closed can these are great. Now I must resist the urge to buy the Alpha Dogs. :tongue_smile: D5000 works well with the Lyr too. I expected a noise floor but they are dead silent. 

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But as once said....u dont need to believe me...u keep on buying (expensive) shiit that pumps out stuff every other year because people like u need or think new ways is good... And if u take the time to really do ur homework in reading reviews etc u will see ur sooo wrong about ur very negative assumption..

 

I agree that there is some tech that sounds great for years, take for instance the Krell (legend, never heard)  headphone amp or the older Headroom max amps (heard this one, beautiful sounding), both sound phenomenal to this day. That being said , there are significant advancements to DACs being made, I switched over to the Benchmark DAC2 and could not believe how much of an improvement  in clarity and detail  I hear over the Benchmak DAC 1, Rega and or the Bifrost Uber. 

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