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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Thanks for the insight, just to clarify:

So I'll assume that the Velours have that treble emphasis that you called a "Sonic Annoyance" and the Leathers are closer to neutral. Yes?

 

 

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You know you want to mod those things.  Stop pussyfootin' around!  ;)

You're such an instigator. Next thing you'll be convincing me to drill holes in the cups. :eek: Ain't happen'in dude.

post #10577 of 18011
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You're such an instigator. Next thing you'll be convincing me to drill holes in the cups. :eek: Ain't happen'in dude.

 

I've found that some people need a swift kick to get motivated to do something that will improve their lives. jergulor pads will improve your life. As will the re-grilling and "fuzzor" mods. All totally reversible, I promise. Well, except for your poor pads. You'd have to buy new ones, but that thought would never cross your mind.

 

"These aren't the pads you're looking for."

dumbfounded pause...

"These aren't the pads we're looking for."

"You will go back to your base and construct jergulor pads for Lord Vader. They will literally blow his mind."

dumbfounded pause...

"We will go back to our base and construct jergulor pads for Lord Vader. They will literally blow his mind."

 

"You will buy me a Philly cheesesteak."

"Don't push it, old man."

post #10578 of 18011
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

I've found that some people need a swift kick to get motivated to do something that will improve their lives. jergulor pads will improve your life. As will the re-grilling and "fuzzor" mods. All totally reversible, I promise. Well, except for your poor pads. You'd have to buy new ones, but that thought would never cross your mind.

 

"These aren't the pads you're looking for."

dumbfounded pause...

"These aren't the pads we're looking for."

"You will go back to your base and construct jergulor pads for Lord Vader. They will literally blow his mind."

dumbfounded pause...

"We will go back to our base and construct jergulor pads for Lord Vader. They will literally blow his mind."

 

"You will buy me a Philly cheesesteak."

"Don't push it, old man."

You can probably tell by my asking Jerg some questions that I've been contemplating pad work. I'm pretty good with handiwork, I have the hands of a brain surgeon but not the license, lucky for the rest of you, Buahahaha :veryevil: ...I feel a music break coming on soon.....Dave Weckl where are you? ...click click.....


Edited by StanD - 1/3/14 at 7:54pm
post #10579 of 18011

Guys, I am facing a difficult decision here. Having recently moved from an apartment to a house, I now finally have the freedom to get some nice speakers and to crank them up properly without disturbing the neighbors. For now, I can't afford speakers over $600 though and I am currently considering one of the bookshelf monitors with ribbon tweeters and I am pretty much set on the Adam F5, as it got some very positive reviews. The problem is that, being a student, I can't afford the speakers, unless I sell the HE-500s.

 

So my question is: How will the F5 or another speaker of a similar class, like Airmotiv, or maybe a BX5/8 compare to HE-500 in sound quality? I understand that I will be loosing quite a bit of sub bass extension, unless I also add a sub, but that's OK - I may add a sub later and I also have RE-400 and PFE that do sub bass plenty well. How about the rest of the spectrum though? Also, how much should I worry about room interactions with the small bookshelf speakers? Will I need to treat my room somehow? I'll be using my Xonar Essence STX as a source for the speakers. I am sure that at least some you guys who own HE-500 also own or have owned one of the aformentioned speakers or other speakers of similar class. Or even if you don't have experience with such speakers, I would still appreciate your thoughts on the matter and on what you may decide to do in the situation.

 

I intend to keep HD650 and ER4S as my reference headphones for now, which I think are both fantastic and close enough to HE-500 to my ears. I may buy HE-500 again later on if I'll really miss it, or I may step up to a higher end can once I finish college and get a decent paying job.


Edited by Pianist - 1/3/14 at 9:56pm
post #10580 of 18011
It's going to be a fun night of A/B'ing. wink.gif

post #10581 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Austin Morrow View Post

It's going to be a fun night of A/B'ing. wink.gif

Oh, I wish I could go back to those days .....  no baggage, single, whatever whenever .... :beerchug: Enjoy it Austin.

post #10582 of 18011
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post

Oh, I wish I could go back to those days .....  no baggage, single, whatever whenever .... beerchug.gif  Enjoy it Austin.

Hot chocolate and some HiFiMAN and Audez'e. What could be better? wink.gif

beerchug.gif
post #10583 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Austin Morrow View Post

It's going to be a fun night of A/B'ing. wink.gif


Awesome! Didn't like the lcd2 that much when I demoed them in person in Oct. Just a few months ago. Looking forward to trying them again some time in the future.
post #10584 of 18011
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Awesome! Didn't like the lcd2 that much when I demoed them in person in Oct. Just a few months ago. Looking forward to trying them again some time in the future.

 

It's honestly very hard for me to pick between the two. I hated the LCD-2 when I first put them on, but they really grow on you. A lot...

 

All I know, is that they are are a bi*** to drive. Harder than the HE-500's. 4 o'clock on the Burson for DSOTM.

post #10585 of 18011

Always thought the LCD2 was easier to drive.

post #10586 of 18011

LCD2    sensitivity: 91 dB/1mW, impedance: 50Ω
HE-500 sensitivity: 89 dB/1mW, impedance: 38Ω

post #10587 of 18011
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post
 

LCD2    sensitivity: 91 dB/1mW, impedance: 50Ω
HE-500 sensitivity: 89 dB/1mW, impedance: 38Ω


Not that different spec wise, but everyone says the LCD2 is the easiest planar to drive, besides HE-400.

And that can be confirmed here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/668238/headphones-sensitivity-impedance-required-v-i-p-amplifier-gain

 

Manufacturer Model S@1V [dB SPL] Z [Ω] Voltage [V] Current [mA] Power [mW] Gain [dB] Notes
Hifiman HE-500 102 34 2.512 73.879 185.576 2
Audeze LCD-2 108 45 1.259 27.976 35.22 -4

Edited by Okamoto - 1/4/14 at 4:13am
post #10588 of 18011
Does this mean the he500 needs less then 1watt into 34ohm to play?

And i also understand that the 2 new lcd x'ses are even easier to drive.
Edited by hifimanrookie - 1/4/14 at 4:47am
post #10589 of 18011
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Does this mean the he500 needs less then 1watt into 34ohm to play?

And i also understand that the 2 new lcd x'ses are even easier to drive.


To reach 110dB, I guess. It needs more current than most headphones, though, like pretty much all planars.

It's interesting to see how different some headphones specs are from the manufacturer claimed ones. HE-4 is 63 Ohm and needs a lot of power to reach 110dB SPL.


Edited by Okamoto - 1/4/14 at 4:59am
post #10590 of 18011
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Does this mean the he500 needs less then 1watt into 34ohm to play?

And i also understand that the 2 new lcd x'ses are even easier to drive.

No... Or maybe. Depends on a lot of things.

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