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With my chain, I'm hearing 50% mids, 30% bass, and 20% treble. Granted of the mids, 67% is upper mids. But definitely no treble or sibilance issues. As koiloco and I have noticed, the HD800s we got from the recent sale differ in this area compared to an HD800 we both heard owned by a mutual friend. Our friend's HD800 did have treble problems and sounded thin.


Same here, I thought they were the way Jerg described them when I first heard them, then I found an amp with good synergy and they are now my favorite cans by a long shot. 

post #10547 of 18028
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Same here, I thought they were the way Jerg described them when I first heard them, then I found an amp with good synergy and they are now my favorite cans by a long shot. 

Could be that with time you acclimated to them, this is known to happen with us humans. Besides, they are great cans.

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Could be that with time you acclimated to them, this is known to happen with us humans. Besides, they are great cans.


Agreed, they were not what I was used to, but once I tried my current amp with them my jaw dropped . I also went back to my old DAC(Rega) that is a touch warmer then the DAC(Benchmark DAC2) I use with my other cans, but the amp really made the difference in this case.

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I suppose to start the "ThurstonX Fan Club" :D You are loved by all at Head-Fi? At least by those with either an HD650 and or HE-500.

 

We are very exclusive.  And yes, that is the royal "we" ;) 

And what the hell is the "?" at the end of: "You are loved by all at Head-Fi?"  I think we all know the answer to that question ;)

 

Seriously though, it was odd to see myself plagiarized.

post #10550 of 18028
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I suppose to start the "ThurstonX Fan Club" :D You are loved by all at Head-Fi? At least by those with either an HD650 and or HE-500.

 

 

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We are very exclusive.  And yes, that is the royal "we" ;) 

And what the hell is the "?" at the end of: "You are loved by all at Head-Fi?"  I think we all know the answer to that question ;)

 

Seriously though, it was odd to see myself plagiarized.

Think of it as being admired. You know Apple would do! :eek:

post #10551 of 18028
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With my chain, I'm hearing 50% mids, 30% bass, and 20% treble. Granted of the mids, 67% is upper mids. But definitely no treble or sibilance issues. As koiloco and I have noticed, the HD800s we got from the recent sale differ in this area compared to an HD800 we both heard owned by a mutual friend. Our friend's HD800 did have treble problems and sounded thin.

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Same here, I thought they were the way Jerg described them when I first heard them, then I found an amp with good synergy and they are now my favorite cans by a long shot. 

 

Oh I'm sure HD800's balance works for others, it just feels completely off for me, as to my ears something like HE6 is still too bright, LCD3 is just a touch dark, LCD2s are just right in treble but too forward in upper mids, and HE500s are too bright with velours; HD800s are objectively brighter than all of those so it's a complete mismatch for what my hearing considers a "natural balance".

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Oh I'm sure HD800's balance works for others, it just feels completely off for me, as to my ears something like HE6 is still too bright, LCD3 is just a touch dark, LCD2s are just right in treble but too forward in upper mids, and HE500s are too bright with velours; HD800s are objectively brighter than all of those so it's a complete mismatch for what my hearing considers a "natural balance".


I agree, we all hear different.

 

My only point was I felt exactly the same way as you, then I heard them with my Fosgate amp/Rega DAC and was shocked at the difference, they transformed into the best headphones these ears have heard as of yet. The brightness turned into precision and they warmed up. They are very amp/DAC picky.

 

I too did not like the HE-500 with velours, which is strange because I thought the HE-400 with velours was decent.

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I agree, we all hear different.

My only point was I felt exactly the same way as you, then I heard them with my Fosgate amp/Rega DAC and was shocked at the difference, they transformed into the best headphones these ears have heard as of yet. The brightness turned into precision and they warmed up. They are very amp/DAC picky.

I too did not like the HE-500 with velours, which is strange because I thought the HE-400 with velours was decent.

I only got the one velour pad with my HE-500 so I didn't get the chance to find out. I hate the feel of that stuff though.
post #10554 of 18028
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Oh I'm sure HD800's balance works for others, it just feels completely off for me, as to my ears something like HE6 is still too bright, LCD3 is just a touch dark, LCD2s are just right in treble but too forward in upper mids, and HE500s are too bright with velours; HD800s are objectively brighter than all of those so it's a complete mismatch for what my hearing considers a "natural balance".

How would you compare the HE-500 Stock Velours to their Stock Leathers?

post #10555 of 18028
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How would you compare the HE-500 Stock Velours to their Stock Leathers?

A touch too dark, but closer to "natural" than with velours.

post #10556 of 18028
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How would you compare the HE-500 Stock Velours to their Stock Leathers?


Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

A touch too dark, but closer to "natural" than with velours.

Thanks for the insight, just to clarify:

So I'll assume that the Velours have that treble emphasis that you called a "Sonic Annoyance" and the Leathers are closer to neutral. Yes?

post #10557 of 18028
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Thanks for the insight, just to clarify:

So I'll assume that the Velours have that treble emphasis that you called a "Sonic Annoyance" and the Leathers are closer to neutral. Yes?

Yeah but there is more to it than that. Pleathers stock sound dirty in the midrange, ringing of some sort. Velours sound much cleaner. Hence why I fiddled around with cutting holes and such, because I hated the muddiness of the pleathers and also hated the stringency of the velours.


Edited by jerg - 1/3/14 at 12:32pm
post #10558 of 18028
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Thanks for the insight, just to clarify:

So I'll assume that the Velours have that treble emphasis that you called a "Sonic Annoyance" and the Leathers are closer to neutral. Yes?

 

You know you want to mod those things.  Stop pussyfootin' around!  ;)

post #10559 of 18028
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With my chain, I'm hearing 50% mids, 30% bass, and 20% treble. Granted of the mids, 67% is upper mids. But definitely no treble or sibilance issues. As koiloco and I have noticed, the HD800s we got from the recent sale differ in this area compared to an HD800 we both heard owned by a mutual friend. Our friend's HD800 did have treble problems and sounded thin.

 

Really?  :blink:

post #10560 of 18028
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Really?  :blink:


I will have that friend's HD800 tmr to compare and confirm what I and Sonido have been wondering about these new HD800's not having that obvious treble spike.  I have listened to that one HD800 for 2 weeks straight on my WA22 so I remember how it sounded clearly but it will be good to do a head to head comparison.

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