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post #10531 of 18079

Bad seal shouldn't really change much in my experience. No, actually the bass increases with 'bad seal' IMO. Not that it is favorable to have some low/mid bass hump...

post #10532 of 18079
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Originally Posted by Stonephace View Post
 

 

I wish there was someone local who could listen to them and give me a second opinion, but sadly, there isn't anyone like that. All I have to go on is my own flawed, subjective opinion.

 

'Bass head'? Not sure - based on my reaction to the '500s compared to (my understanding of) the consensus view, I must be...

 

So where do I go from here? Suppose I do still have £750/$1250 to spend (though probably quite a bit less now), what are the 'bass head' phones at that price point? :)


TH600 or TH900 should make you smile.

post #10533 of 18079
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

Don't get rid of them yet. Find something with a bass knob, or EQ a bass boost into them. I find the HE-500 very bass lacking and treble wincing myself at times.

The HE-500 sounds good on my Aune T1 amp, but it sounds excellent off my Lepai 2020+ speaker amp with bass boost engaged. If you can get or make speaker tap cables, try the Lepai for $20 before you get rid of them.
You're probably wincing at the underpowered he500s off of the lepai. Lol. Stop. Bringing. Up. The. Lepai. It. Is. A. Piece. Of. Crap. Just look at those infinite 1stars at how unreliable those things are.
post #10534 of 18079
Lol underpowered. Show me another balanced amp that pushes 3W+ for $20 like it does.

Like it or not, it sounds great, and isn't too far off from the mini-x, which I sold. I'll be a broken record until a better performance/value with tone control can be achieved.
post #10535 of 18079
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Originally Posted by Stonephace View Post

 

If the '500s are that sensitive to choice of amp then I'm selling them on principle - and serves me right.

 

Your 500s are probably defective. A proper sounding HE-500 is pretty much reference neutral-ish, a la the Sennhesier HD600. You own the HD600 it seems... do you find the tonality similar? If not, your HE-500 is probably defective.

 

During the 200 hour burn-in marathon of the HE-500, there is a point when the bass seems to just disappear and the treble sounds shrill. I think somewhere around 40 to 70 hours?  I had the pleasure of burning in 4 different HE-500s at different points of my life. But you say you're way past 100, so I'm thinking you have a defective unit.

 

Send it back and get another one. Especially if you love the signature of the HD600, because the HE-500 is like the planar version of it. With more clarity, extension and slam.

 

On a side note. European Head-fiers need to really find an equivalent for the Emotiva. There must be a thousand speaker amp manufacterers spread throughout Europe. No point in importing, find something equivalent in the price range and share with your other EU buddies.

post #10536 of 18079
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 

 

Your 500s are probably defective. A proper sounding HE-500 is pretty much reference neutral-ish, a la the Sennhesier HD600. You own the HD600 it seems... do you find the tonality similar? If not, your HE-500 is probably defective.

 

During the 200 hour burn-in marathon of the HE-500, there is a point when the bass seems to just disappear and the treble sounds shrill. I think somewhere around 40 to 70 hours?  I had the pleasure of burning in 4 different HE-500s at different points of my life. But you say you're way past 100, so I'm thinking you have a defective unit.

 

Send it back and get another one. Especially if you love the signature of the HD600, because the HE-500 is like the planar version of it. With more clarity, extension and slam.

 

On a side note. European Head-fiers need to really find an equivalent for the Emotiva. There must be a thousand speaker amp manufacterers spread throughout Europe. No point in importing, find something equivalent in the price range and share with your other EU buddies.

 

+1, or your hearing is gone... kidding.  I know you've compared other cans and it's hard to believe non-defective HE-500s can sound that bad.  I got mine used with very few hours on them.  Only had the velour pads then, but they didn't sound at all like you're describing them.  I mean, my Q701s can make me wince with the wrong music, but never the HE-500s.  Modded they sound even better.  Be the squeaky wheel, get some grease.

 

I know there are people who don't like the HE-500s compared to other cans, esp. other planars, but I can't recall reading a complaint as drastic as this one.

post #10537 of 18079
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 

 

Your 500s are probably defective. A proper sounding HE-500 is pretty much reference neutral-ish, a la the Sennhesier HD600. You own the HD600 it seems... do you find the tonality similar? If not, your HE-500 is probably defective.

 

During the 200 hour burn-in marathon of the HE-500, there is a point when the bass seems to just disappear and the treble sounds shrill. I think somewhere around 40 to 70 hours?  I had the pleasure of burning in 4 different HE-500s at different points of my life. But you say you're way past 100, so I'm thinking you have a defective unit.

 

Send it back and get another one. Especially if you love the signature of the HD600, because the HE-500 is like the planar version of it. With more clarity, extension and slam.

 

On a side note. European Head-fiers need to really find an equivalent for the Emotiva. There must be a thousand speaker amp manufacterers spread throughout Europe. No point in importing, find something equivalent in the price range and share with your other EU buddies.

 

+1000

post #10538 of 18079
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Why is there some much concern that these headphones be put in summit fi?  What will it change about the headphones?  These headphones are good period, being in summit fi won't make them better.

Agreed, but it goes both ways. There is no reason not to have these in the summit fi forum.
post #10539 of 18079
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

Lol underpowered. Show me another balanced amp that pushes 3W+ for $20 like it does.

Like it or not, it sounds great, and isn't too far off from the mini-x, which I sold. I'll be a broken record until a better performance/value with tone control can be achieved.
Excuse me, not underpowered but bad quality amping. In no way were these made with "quality" components anywhere especially with their massive faliure rate. Have you seen it on amazon with like 30% of the reviews saying "it arrived broken" or "it died within a month"?
post #10540 of 18079
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post


Excuse me, not underpowered but bad quality amping. In no way were these made with "quality" components anywhere especially with their massive faliure rate. Have you seen it on amazon with like 30% of the reviews saying "it arrived broken" or "it died within a month"?

Hey hey, chill Nimzerz.  At the price the Lepai is sold, you can afford to buy it 8 times before the total = the cost of the Emotiva.  :D

Each of us has different spending preference and hearing.  Let the customers decide! 

post #10541 of 18079
This will be interesting.

post #10542 of 18079
0FyzbX

I got the HD 650s specifically for their "mellow" approach.  They are pretty much what I expected.  I may end up on the other side of that fence and sell them, but I kinda doubt it.

post #10543 of 18079
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

Back when I auditioned the HD800s, it just sounded like 50% treble, 30% mids, and 20% bass. It was very jarring next to all the Hifimans and Audezes at that session. I think HD800s really need modding or aggressive EQ to remove that treble emphasis.


With my chain, I'm hearing 50% mids, 30% bass, and 20% treble. Granted of the mids, 67% is upper mids. But definitely no treble or sibilance issues. As koiloco and I have noticed, the HD800s we got from the recent sale differ in this area compared to an HD800 we both heard owned by a mutual friend. Our friend's HD800 did have treble problems and sounded thin.

post #10544 of 18079
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Originally Posted by kasdgwxs View Post
 
0FyzbX

I got the HD 650s specifically for their "mellow" approach.  They are pretty much what I expected.  I may end up on the other side of that fence and sell them, but I kinda doubt it.

 

Yes, you quoted me, but to what end?

post #10545 of 18079
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Originally Posted by kasdgwxs View Post
 
0FyzbX

I got the HD 650s specifically for their "mellow" approach.  They are pretty much what I expected.  I may end up on the other side of that fence and sell them, but I kinda doubt it.

 

 

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Yes, you quoted me, but to what end?

I suppose to start the "ThurstonX Fan Club" :D You are loved by all at Head-Fi? At least by those with either an HD650 and or HE-500.


Edited by StanD - 1/3/14 at 7:42am
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