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For 20k I could buy an Orpheus and would still have money left for a SR-009.

post #10427 of 14636
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Originally Posted by Okamoto View Post

For 20k I could buy an Orpheus and would still have money left for a SR-009.
I dont think so...i jsut saw a confidential for an he90 orpeus system..asking price 18,000euro!..for the amp and phones..
But thats a headphone amp...the NSL of 20,000usd is a speaker amp...so a Competely different animal.
My headphone dac/amp costs much less being around 5000usd (as its less powerfull and a dedicated headphone amp with only one input.. USB)..and for that price u cant have a orpheus system..or even a sr009 system..

But in the end its all about the eye of the beholder who buys what and for what price.. Thats the fun of headfi... We are are different..if everyone would buy stax (sr007?) because its in that price range headfi would be very boring i am guessing... biggrin.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 1/1/14 at 6:46am
post #10428 of 14636
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

I dont think so...i jsut saw a confidential for an he90 orpeus system..asking price 18,000euro!..for the amp and phones..
But thats a headphone amp...the NSL of 20,000usd is a speaker amp...so a Competely different animal.
My headphone dac/amp costs much less being around 5000usd (as its less powerfull and a dedicated headphone amp with only one input.. USB)..and for that price u cant have a orpheus system..or even a sr009 system..

But in the end its all about the eye of the beholder who buys what and for what price.. Thats the fun of headfi... We are are different..if everyone would buy stax (sr007?) because its in that price range headfi would be very boring i am guessing... biggrin.gif

I would ask your amp builder to declare a lower value than five grand. The customs bill on that would be outrageous.
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Originally Posted by Tony1110 View Post

I would ask your amp builder to declare a lower value than five grand. The customs bill on that would be outrageous.
Ofcourse i will..as otherwise my bill would be a total of around 7400usd when deliverd from canada to my doorstep..as its around 600usd postage based on wieght and measurements (found online)..and on total of those prices (product&postage&insurance) i have to up it with 30-35% in taxes and customcosts. redface.gif
Lucky i have some reseves that my wife doesnt know about..as she still thinks my new amp is second hand and under 1000 euro.. Oopsie very_evil_smiley.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 1/1/14 at 7:25am
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


I dont think so...i jsut saw a confidential for an he90 orpeus system..asking price 18,000euro!..for the amp and phones..
But thats a headphone amp...the NSL of 20,000usd is a speaker amp...so a Competely different animal.
My headphone dac/amp costs much less being around 5000usd (as its less powerfull and a dedicated headphone amp with only one input.. USB)..and for that price u cant have a orpheus system..or even a sr009 system..

But in the end its all about the eye of the beholder who buys what and for what price.. Thats the fun of headfi... We are are different..if everyone would buy stax (sr007?) because its in that price range headfi would be very boring i am guessing... biggrin.gif


20k is expensive even for a speaker amp. You can get some great speakers for half that price.

About Orpheus: http://www.head-fi.org/t/697285/fs-sennheiser-he90-orpheus-electrostatic-headphone

Also: http://www.htforum.com/vb/showthread.php/165415-Sennheiser-Orpheus-HE90-HeadAmp-Aristaeus?highlight=orpheus

R$ 28,000 =~ U$12,000


Edited by Okamoto - 1/1/14 at 7:32am
post #10431 of 14636
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Originally Posted by Okamoto View Post


20k is expensive even for a speaker amp. You can get some great speakers for that price.


About Orpheus: http://www.head-fi.org/t/697285/fs-sennheiser-he90-orpheus-electrostatic-headphone


Also: http://www.htforum.com/vb/showthread.php/165415-Sennheiser-Orpheus-HE90-HeadAmp-Aristaeus?highlight=orpheus


R$ 28,000 =~ $12,000
Lolz..to much money for me..even my rig is almost to expensive to..its at the limit of my budget... More i couldnt and wouldnt spend on audio for ur ears..next year dec in my new house i will be in the market for a speaker rig then..already know i want some mark logan electrostatic speakers, new or second hand..and then let BCA built me an amp to drive them tongue.gif

damn..this thread is starting to sound as summit fi again..lolz..better talk about affordable good sounding stuff again..or else the moderators wont be happy biggrin.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 1/1/14 at 7:35am
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


Lolz..to much money for me..even my rig is almost to expensive to..its at the limit of my budget... More i couldnt and wouldnt spend on audio for ur ears..next year dec in my new house i will be in the market for a speaker rig then..already know i want some mark logan electrostatic speakers, new or second hand..and then let BCA built me an amp to drive them tongue.gif



I agree that it is expensive. What I'm arguing here is your statement that U$20k pricetag for an amp is not very high :p

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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Ofcourse i will..as otherwise my bill would be a total of around 7400usd when deliverd from canada to my doorstep..as its around 600usd postage based on wieght and measurements (found online)..and on total of those prices (product&postage&insurance) i have to up it with 30-35% in taxes and customcosts. redface.gif
Lucky i have some reseves that my wife doesnt know about..as she still thinks my new amp is second hand and under 1000 euro.. Oopsie very_evil_smiley.gif

I've told my GF many a little fib like that. If I were to tell her that my headphone cable cost $300 I honestly don't think she'd believe me anyway biggrin.gif
post #10434 of 14636
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


I dont think so...i jsut saw a confidential for an he90 orpeus system..asking price 18,000euro!..for the amp and phones..
But thats a headphone amp...the NSL of 20,000usd is a speaker amp...so a Competely different animal.
My headphone dac/amp costs much less being around 5000usd (as its less powerfull and a dedicated headphone amp with only one input.. USB)..and for that price u cant have a orpheus system..or even a sr009 system..

But in the end its all about the eye of the beholder who buys what and for what price.. Thats the fun of headfi... We are are different..if everyone would buy stax (sr007?) because its in that price range headfi would be very boring i am guessing... biggrin.gif

 

 

It has a build in DAC as well?  I see it's not fully discrete because it has op amps but is it a true balanced amp (dual differential) or a SE amp?  

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post


It has a build in DAC as well?  I see it's not fully discrete because it has op amps but is it a true balanced amp (dual differential) or a SE amp?  
Yep dac included and 24/96 usb (capable of 192also) input (thats an extra u have to pay in his dacs!)

Gilbert told me its balanced from input to output...just like his big daddy..the NSL..so i suppose its balanced..i dont think he would use dual 3pin xlr on the amp if it wasnt balanced..he isnt into esthetics..he is all about efficiency and performance...knowing him he wouldnt even do it ..making a single ended amp with balanced connectors..it wouldnt make any sense doing that!

If i understand it correctly the right board on pic is the dac board(hope i didnt get it wrong..lolz)..read this mail of him about the first pic (and dont forget..its nowhere finished, so i suppose there is going to be some kind of isolation between the boards..)

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Paulo
It's shows the DAC and main amp driver boards. The smaller one towards the left is the input/gain board. The main driver boards is inditical to one of the NSL output board. You can say I just steal one from the NSL production to make your amp. This kind of custom project is sort of my "pet" project and do it in my "spare" time....... if I can call it spare time. Production people don't touch it, I do it all myself. Ok, may be 95%. I tell them where to drill those holes. :-)

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But its still very early!! He only did one floor of opamps..dont know how many more will come..as on the NSL the opamp boards are stacked up to the top of the cover!

And i dont know why he has that right front side open...

I just wait for the next pics of him and info..as i asked him to sent me in-proces pics along the way..and this was first pic...as soon i have more pics i will post them..
Edited by hifimanrookie - 1/1/14 at 8:00am
post #10436 of 14636
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Originally Posted by Okamoto View Post



I agree that it is expensive. What I'm arguing here is your statement that U$20k pricetag for an amp is not very high tongue.gif
Not very high compared to the costs he has to make for parts and the labor (employees)..ofcourse its huge price tag biggrin.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 1/1/14 at 7:59am
post #10437 of 14636

Hi all,

 

What about this config? It seems miracle :)

 

SR-009 + Blue Hawaii SE (upgraded) + MSB The Analog DAC (upgraded) : 4500$ + 7000$ + 10000$

 

King Regards

post #10438 of 14636
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


Not very high compared to the costs he has to make for parts and the labor...ofcourse its huge price tag biggrin.gif


I doubt it's that expensive to produce. And even if it was, it probably wouldn't be because of the internal components.

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What have i started..OMG ... I hitchhiked this thread and threw it into summit fi universe..oh well..its always good to dream.. biggrin.gif
But i agree..if i ever had that kind of money to spend on a headphonerig rig..that would probably it! wink.gif
post #10440 of 14636
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Originally Posted by Okamoto View Post


I doubt it's that expensive to produce. And even if it was, it probably wouldn't be because of the internal components.
On his 'regular' prodction he has co-workers on it..so he has to pay for that also..and electricity, and transport etc etc.
No matter the costs..many people who buy his stuff and all the reviewers of which i read a review of..they all say his products give excellent value for money...
Ofcourse its not as much value of a lyr or a 337 or emotiva..but compared to the other higher end stuff it is! wink.gif
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