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post #10171 of 18011
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

Okie, let me get you clear once and for all if it's possible! ;)

 

  1. I bought the WA22 to drive 2 HPs : my HE500 and either HD800/T1 or another candidate. (the HD800, I've spent 2 weeks straight with on the WA22)
  2. WA22 overall is the better amp at 10 times the $ (more now with upgraded tubes in all sockets).  It can drive both my HE500 and HD800.  The Emotiva can only drive/pair well with the HE500.  Mini-x to my ear is not ideal for dynamic HPs such as HD800.
  3. To my taste and preference in sound, indeed I prefer the Emotiva driving my HE500 over the WA22.  For me, the mini-x is better with HE500 overall though not across the board better in all categories.  With that said, I do use my HE500 more on the Emotiva.  The only time I use WA22 is when I listen to genres/tracks that don't require a weighty bottom to sound right to my ears (classic jazz, string acoustics, some classical...)
  4. You will be surprised at how much details the Mini-X can put out and how balanced and neutral the Mini-X is.  Don't judge it if you haven't actually used it or haven't spent enough time with it.  I don't do that when it comes to your 337 either cuz I have never had the chance to listen to it myself.  
  5. With the power the Mini-X puts out, you will be surprised at the sound-stage on the HE500.  All I would say is that "quite comparable to WA22"
  6. I just spent over $500 in tubes and try to get the WA22/HE500 to sound the way I like.  I finally did it.  Then, I was shocked how close the 2 amps sound now.

 

Anyway, I was a big Emotiva skeptic.  I pretty much bought the Mini-X to disprove M-13's hype train for myself.  Well, I was dead wrong.  So, think what you want, say what you want about the Emotiva.  Yes, it's $169.  It's cheap!  It's not the prettiest amp though it does have a blue circle on its volume knob (sry, i can't help with that one :D) but I am more than willing to admit that it kicks ass (including my WA22's ass on the HE500).  For the money, IMO there's no better SS choice for the HE500 all the way up to the $$$$ range and even at that range or beyond, I am not sure how much SQ one will gain.  I've listened to quite a few high end SS amps already to safely say this.

Has your experience not tempted you with the XPA-1 or XPA-1L? Balanced class-A sound. It has tempted me.

post #10172 of 18011

I'm almost getting a HD800 myself, but the piercing treble reports are really holding me back. I find HE-500's treble to be perfect. Anymore than that is not ideal for me.

post #10173 of 18011
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post

Okie, let me get you clear once and for all if it's possible! wink.gif
  1. I bought the WA22 to drive 2 HPs : my HE500 and either HD800/T1 or another candidate. (the HD800, I've spent 2 weeks straight with on the WA22)
  2. WA22 overall is the better amp at 10 times the $ (more now with upgraded tubes in all sockets).  It can drive both my HE500 and HD800.  The Emotiva can only drive/pair well with the HE500.  Mini-x to my ear is not ideal for dynamic HPs such as HD800.
  3. To my taste and preference in sound, indeed I prefer the Emotiva driving my HE500 over the WA22.  For me, the mini-x is better with HE500 overall though not across the board better in all categories.  With that said, I do use my HE500 more on the Emotiva.  The only time I use WA22 is when I listen to genres/tracks that don't require a weighty bottom to sound right to my ears (classic jazz, string acoustics, some classical...)
  4. You will be surprised at how much details the Mini-X can put out and how balanced and neutral the Mini-X is.  Don't judge it if you haven't actually used it or haven't spent enough time with it.  I don't do that when it comes to your 337 either cuz I have never had the chance to listen to it myself.  
  5. With the power the Mini-X puts out, you will be surprised at the sound-stage on the HE500.  All I would say is that "quite comparable to WA22"
  6. I just spent over $500 in tubes and try to get the WA22/HE500 to sound the way I like.  I finally did it.  Then, I was shocked how close the 2 amps sound now.

Anyway, I was a big Emotiva skeptic.  I pretty much bought the Mini-X to disprove M-13's hype train for myself.  Well, I was dead wrong.  So, think what you want, say what you want about the Emotiva.  Yes, it's $169.  It's cheap!  It's not the prettiest amp though it does have a blue circle on its volume knob (sry, i can't help with that one biggrin.gif ) but I am more than willing to admit that it kicks ass (including my WA22's ass on the HE500).  For the money, IMO there's no better SS choice for the HE500 all the way up to the $$$$ range and even at that range or beyond, I am not sure how much SQ one will gain.  I've listened to quite a few high end SS amps already to safely say this.
My friend..u never heard me say the emotiva sounds bad..as until now i still didnt hear one....i just dont like the cheapish flashy looks... Sooooo ur already comparing the emotiva knob to the blue circle circle huh? biggrin.gif
Maybe one day we could do a head to head compare with the wa22, my BC amp and the emotiva..

Seriously... I am seriously considering getting an emotiva for my bedroom rig..if only i could dim (switch off) the lights on the amp, like i could do on my luxman hybrid (with tubes) cd player i once had. biggrin.gif

And if u say u like the emotiva more then the wa22 with the he500 then i believe u... I hope it isnst better then my BC amp..or else i will kill myself biggrin.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 12/25/13 at 10:52am
post #10174 of 18011

The people here who are turned off by the Emotiva. I bet if it had the aesthetics of an Apple product and was price closer to $1000, they would all be jumping on it. Gotta psychologically make yourself feel your purchase was substantial enough to warrant an improvement. You watch what you say on here @koiloco. What kind of heresy is cheaper sounding better than more expensive?!?! :D 


Edited by Sonido - 12/25/13 at 10:52am
post #10175 of 18011
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


My friend..u never heard me say the emotiva sounds bad..as until now i still didnt hear one....i just dont like the cheapish flashy looks... Sooooo ur already comparing the emotiva knob to the blue circle circle huh? biggrin.gif
Maybe one day we could do a head to head compare with the wa22, my BC amp and the emotiva..

Seriously... I am seriously considering getting an emotiva for my bedroom rig..if only i could dim (switch off) the lights on the amp, like i could do on my luxman hybrid (with tubes) cd player i once had. biggrin.gif


The standby mode is a very dim orange. It has an auto mode that stands by the amp when not in use.

post #10176 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post

The people here who are turned off by the Emotiva. I bet if it had the aesthetics of an Apple product and was price closer to $1000, they would all be jumping on it. Gotta psychologically make yourself feel your purchase was substantial enough to warrant an improvement. You watch what you say on here @koiloco
. What kind of heresy is cheaper sounding better than more expensive?!?! biggrin.gif  
Well...if i cared about esthetics a lot i wouldnt bought a 337 in the first place.. And why i am getting a Bc amp instead of a cavalli.. I love back to the basics look...a look that it can take a beating and built to last..and especially..no screens or bling bling leds.. As i listen to my rig at night mostly in darkness having a christmas tree amp would irritate me...
And as i said..in my bedroom its even more important to have a non screen/non lit amp then... But it has nothing to do with the sound.. Just my preference of how i use it biggrin.gif

Ps..i certainly am not a fan of apple products although i have 4 pieces in my household.. They are sometimes deadright irritating..especially with ios 7.04! mad.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 12/25/13 at 11:03am
post #10177 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Okamoto View Post
 

I'm almost getting a HD800 myself, but the piercing treble reports are really holding me back. I find HE-500's treble to be perfect. Anymore than that is not ideal for me.


I have not had the piercing treble issue on the HD800's,  I did have an issue with Grado SR325i's for reference. It was painful. piercing treble with the magni amp, not as bad with Asgard 2.

The HE500's are, to me, about right WRT treble.

post #10178 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Okamoto View Post
 

I'm almost getting a HD800 myself, but the piercing treble reports are really holding me back. I find HE-500's treble to be perfect. Anymore than that is not ideal for me.


I do not experience that what-so-ever.

post #10179 of 18011

Christmas present from my wife - living room listening station! To those that say the Emotiva isn't much to look at, maybe you just need a better environment for it ;)

 

post #10180 of 18011
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Originally Posted by ethan7000 View Post
 

Christmas present from my wife - living room listening station! To those that say the Emotiva isn't much to look at, maybe you just need a better environment for it ;)

 

You lucky bastard

post #10181 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Fearless1 View Post
 


I do not experience that what-so-ever.

 

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Originally Posted by bearFNF View Post
 


I have not had the piercing treble issue on the HD800's,  I did have an issue with Grado SR325i's for reference. It was painful. piercing treble with the magni amp, not as bad with Asgard 2.

The HE500's are, to me, about right WRT treble.


Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm still deciding if I get a HD800 or go with a pair of Speakers (KEF LS50 or X300A). I'm very afraid of piercing treble in headphones. In speakers, this issue is much diminished since they're farther from the ears. That's why i'm considering it.

post #10182 of 18011
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Originally Posted by ethan7000 View Post
 

Christmas present from my wife - living room listening station! To those that say the Emotiva isn't much to look at, maybe you just need a better environment for it ;)

 

Ethan,

is it a demotion ? :wink:. My Emotiva is own its way to India as are the speaker tap cables from Brian. Will be a 2014 set up and enjoy kinda thing. 

post #10183 of 18011
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post

Ethan,
is it a demotion ? wink.gif . My Emotiva is own its way to India as are the speaker tap cables from Brian. Will be a 2014 set up and enjoy kinda thing. 
A demotion? Not sure what you mean - I'm sure you'll love the Emotiva / 500 combo!
post #10184 of 18011
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Originally Posted by ethan7000 View Post


A demotion? Not sure what you mean - I'm sure you'll love the Emotiva / 500 combo!

What I meant was, the Emotiva was all the way down on the floor....hence an attempt at humor :biggrin:

post #10185 of 18011
How does the emotive compare to the lyr since the lyr has all the headroom you can need
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