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post #1006 of 18022
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Originally Posted by hasanyuceer View Post

I am thinking about driving HE500s with an headphone amp. A tube amp most probably.

 

What do you think about driving HE500s with a tube headphone amp?

 

For example I am thinking about getting Primaluna Prologue Two.



My best amp for the HE500 is the Decware combo I use the CS2 preamp driving the Taboo. Pure magic

post #1007 of 18022
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Originally Posted by ardilla View Post

 

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HE-500 and LCD-2 is on the same level. Period. 

 

I do not agree that build quality is worse on the HiFIman. It is more likely to take a drop to the floor thant the Audez'e, an Hifiman stopped using wood because of the craks - which several Audez'e has reported. I'd rather have the LCD-2 in a HE-500 housing than the other way around.  have both and could hardly decide which not to keep if I had to...


In terms of build quality, comparing between my friends LCD-2 that I've had experience with and my HE-500's, I'd say that Audeze is slightly better in our case. My HE-500's came with severe driver imbalance on arrival and the stock pads basically fell off. The pleather pads are too shallow for my liking so that was a disappointment on both fronts. The replacement came but within a month the paint on the metal arches connecting the earcups to the headband began to peel. Now most of it is gone. Might be a heat issue, it's hot where I live. I also experience drop outs from the right connector to the right driver... faulty as hell.

The LCD-2 pair did develop a subtle driver imbalance several month down the track, plus the cable died on us. Audeze fixed the LCD-2's after a few weeks of emailing them but still haven't address the cable concern to date. Pretty poor customer service for such expensive headphones, but I guess they're busy on the LCD-3 veil front.

 

In terms of sound quality, I would take the LCD-2 in a heartbeat, any day. I know everyone has different hearing, but for both me and my friend (we have noticeably different hearing - he's more sensitive to highs, whilst i am to texture) think the Audeze sound more natural, less fatiguing and more realistic than the HE-500's. When I listen to my HE-500's I feel like I am listening to the same music I've been hearing for years on inferior gear bar with better PrAT. I also get headaches after extended listening sessions... maybe due to the higher treble frequencies it's outputting?? I have no idea why. With the LCD-2's, I feel like I'm rediscovering every recording dear to my heart.

 

 


Edited by temporaryname - 3/9/12 at 4:52am
post #1008 of 18022

I love my HE-500's. When Frank I reviewed them I was motivated to buy them, and the build quality is acceptable. The left cable connector was mildly stripped but easy to fix. I use my AVA Super PAS 3i preamp and it drives them very well. I also bought a mildly used EF5 which sounds

better, and I put together a cable to drive them with my Bottlehead 300B Paramount monoblocks - the best!

 

I am waiting for my Decware  ZEN Tori III amp to come by early May...  Especially excited to use it with my Tannoy Canterbury SE's...

 

I also have Denon 2000 and 7000's, and Grado 325i's and RS1i's.  The HE-500's rule, and I am enjoying the music!

post #1009 of 18022
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 "I have no idea why. With the LCD-2's, I feel like I'm rediscovering every recording dear to my heart."

 

 



I feel just the same with my HE-500 and HE-5LE, I've been using DT990 and K702 for a loooong time. While they are good enough and really make a great difference in sound when compared to almost any USD$250.00 or less gear, I am truly rediscorvering my album collection with the new HiFiMans powered by the Lyr! Just great.

post #1010 of 18022
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Originally Posted by faverodefavero View Post



I feel just the same with my HE-500 and HE-5LE, I've been using DT990 and K702 for a loooong time. While they are good enough and really make a great difference in sound when compared to almost any USD$250.00 or less gear, I am truly rediscorvering my album collection with the new HiFiMans powered by the Lyr! Just great.


I got the LCD-2 first and couldn't resist trying out the HE-500. When I first got them, I really liked the HE-500 more. At that point, I was using them both with the Lyr/Bifrost combo. Then I started using with the Cypher Labs AlgoRhythm Solo and Continental V2 which I really like with the HE-500. But both are very nice in their own way with the Lyr, IMHO.

 

Rediscovering my album collection is a good way to put it. I'm very happy...

 

post #1011 of 18022

I have Concerto in my hands now. But I wonder HE500s get better if I get an speaker amp. (Also I can have my speakers driven from it)

 

Not thinking about getting another headamp.
 

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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post



My best amp for the HE500 is the Decware combo I use the CS2 preamp driving the Taboo. Pure magic



 


Edited by hasanyuceer - 3/12/12 at 3:48pm
post #1012 of 18022
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Originally Posted by hasanyuceer View Post

I have Concerto in my hands now. But I wonder HE500s get better if I get an speaker amp. (Also I can have my speakers driven from it)

 

Not thinking about getting another headamp.
 



 



I owned  and sold the Concerto and its not anywhere close to the sound of the Decware amps.

post #1013 of 18022

I have a loaner pair right now which I am using with BCL set at the +10 gain and fed by an HRTII+.  I would say the BLC has plenty of power to move the HE500 with proper authority.  I like how these can sound so detailed an quick but also have lots of body and slam, which is great for faster music genres.  

post #1014 of 18022
What amps are you guys using with the HE500?

I only have solid state amps, while it is good, I can't really listen to it for long. I don't know if it is due to the weight/clamp or the sound. My K501 has more high mid emphasis and sounds thinner yet it is less fatiguing to me.

I don't have a tube amp to try it on. I am building a SOHA II but it will take a while to complete, I wonder if it is worth it to try to make the HE500 work for me. I am thinking of returning it and get a HD650 instead. I tried LCD2 but to me it doesn't sound realistic to me as it lacked sparkle, I expect a bit more out of a $1k headphone.
post #1015 of 18022

I'm using a Violectric V200 SS amp but it is known to have a touch of hybrid tube warmth.  I also would like to hear the HE-500 driven by a tube amp.  Probably something like the Decware Taboo or upcoming Schiit amp.
 

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Originally Posted by Navyblue View Post

What amps are you guys using with the HE500?
I only have solid state amps, while it is good, I can't really listen to it for long. I don't know if it is due to the weight/clamp or the sound. My K501 has more high mid emphasis and sounds thinner yet it is less fatiguing to me.
I don't have a tube amp to try it on. I am building a SOHA II but it will take a while to complete, I wonder if it is worth it to try to make the HE500 work for me. I am thinking of returning it and get a HD650 instead. I tried LCD2 but to me it doesn't sound realistic to me as it lacked sparkle, I expect a bit more out of a $1k headphone.


 

post #1016 of 18022

Right now I'm just using a little dot mkii with mullard ef92 tubes while I wait for my amp(decware taboo) to be built.  I do enjoy the LD though more than I expected to.  I had originally bought it to use with other phones and ended up liking it quite a bit with my he-500.  No fatigue at all with the LD or the Schiit Asgard I was using before.

post #1017 of 18022

I'm mostly using my 339 tube amp or the Violectric V100. I do prefer it on tubes

post #1018 of 18022
Thanks guys.

I read in a tech review (yes, not an audio review) saying it is rare for a headphone to sound without having any obvious frequency tilt, I totally agree with that. For some reason headphones, even high end ones tend to have kind of frequency bias or colouration that is not nearly as common as you'd find on speakers. Where as it is not hard at all to imagine that a pair of speaker can sound like HE500.

Weighty deep bass - check
Warm full mids - check
Clear treble - check
Smoothness - check
Detail - check

There is really little to fault it, but the pity is that I just can't listen to it for long. And this headphone, IMO, doesn't sound good at low volume. Dilemma!
post #1019 of 18022
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Originally Posted by Navyblue View Post

 IMO, doesn't sound good at low volume. Dilemma!


 

I think it sounds just fine actually. you giving it enough juice? Are you using the β22 from your profile?

post #1020 of 18022
Yes I use the Beta 22, personally I find at low volume the midrange detail is kinda hard to hear.
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