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post #2431 of 2847

Picking the right amp should be based on your personal preference, so i would suggest giving a try to the amp before you pull the trigger.

 

If it helps, I was in a similar situation when I got my HD800. I loved the sound, the soundstage and the details, but the highs were way too much for my taste. I also have the T1 and the HE-6 (which is very difficult to drive)

 

Upgrading to v200 helped and I have a sound which I’m very happy with, but if you’re expecting the HD800 to change completely it won’t happen. I added an aftermarket cable and anaxilus mod, but I believe the HD800 is just not made for every type of music. It’s a very picky headphone with the quality of the recordings and the genre of the music, but can give you goose-bumps when the song suits it.

post #2432 of 2847
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Originally Posted by SMG52 View Post
 

Mogami 2549 for my single ended interconnect,purchased from 10audio. 

 

+1 for Mogami. I use  W2534 RCA with Neutrik plugs.

post #2433 of 2847
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Originally Posted by hennessys View Post
 

Picking the right amp should be based on your personal preference, so i would suggest giving a try to the amp before you pull the trigger.

 

If it helps, I was in a similar situation when I got my HD800. I loved the sound, the soundstage and the details, but the highs were way too much for my taste. I also have the T1 and the HE-6 (which is very difficult to drive)

 

Upgrading to v200 helped and I have a sound which I’m very happy with, but if you’re expecting the HD800 to change completely it won’t happen. I added an aftermarket cable and anaxilus mod, but I believe the HD800 is just not made for every type of music. It’s a very picky headphone with the quality of the recordings and the genre of the music, but can give you goose-bumps when the song suits it.

 

I don't want it to change complete, I just want to kill those highs. The headphone is pretty much perfect without the treble spike.

 

Listening to most of this stuff first isn't really an option, sadly. Oh well, I ordered it last night. Wish me luck. If it fails, I'll probably give up on the HD800. I've spent way too much money on it and trying to get it sounding good.

post #2434 of 2847
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I don't want it to change complete, I just want to kill those highs. The headphone is pretty much perfect without the treble spike.

Listening to most of this stuff first isn't really an option, sadly. Oh well, I ordered it last night. Wish me luck. If it fails, I'll probably give up on the HD800. I've spent way too much money on it and trying to get it sounding good.

What source material do you listen to?
post #2435 of 2847
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What source material do you listen to?

FLAC from either my computer or DX50 coax out, Peachtree Dac-It (Sabre 9018). mp3 only when I can't find FLACs.

 

Genres are mostly 80's pop/rock (about 80% female vocals), heavy metal and videogame music. I actually really like the HD800's speed for stuff like metal, I'm not really interested in impact, more interested in making out dense double-guitar passages and riffs underneath the vocals.

 

The headphone would be perfect if I could tame the treble energy. The V200 arrives today, so I'll have a status report on it.


Edited by GoldfishX - 1/17/14 at 7:42am
post #2436 of 2847
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Originally Posted by hennessys View Post
 

Picking the right amp should be based on your personal preference, so i would suggest giving a try to the amp before you pull the trigger.

 

If it helps, I was in a similar situation when I got my HD800. I loved the sound, the soundstage and the details, but the highs were way too much for my taste. I also have the T1 and the HE-6 (which is very difficult to drive)

 

Upgrading to v200 helped and I have a sound which I’m very happy with, but if you’re expecting the HD800 to change completely it won’t happen. I added an aftermarket cable and anaxilus mod, but I believe the HD800 is just not made for every type of music. It’s a very picky headphone with the quality of the recordings and the genre of the music, but can give you goose-bumps when the song suits it.

 

No place to try these amps. I was happy just to find out they had a US online store. Great service, very friendly.

 

I actually like hearing bad recordings on the HD800. Picking out all the little problems with mic placement and whatnot, extra studio processing (especially on glossy 80's pop albums...too much fun). On lesser headphones, you're left wondering if the problem is your gear. Led Zeppelin drives me crazy on lower end setups, I love how the HD800 picks up EVERYTHING!

post #2437 of 2847
Haha yeah I sometimes love the bad recordings too. You can fully appreciate the badness exactly as it is.
post #2438 of 2847

:D

 

You guys are crazy, but i have to admit I also like Led Zeppelin with the HD800...

post #2439 of 2847

Very first impression: Not as dark as some impressions would leave me to believe. The HD800 is still tilted forward as far as brightness goes, but the mids are fantastically layered now, even with minimal burn-in and I have yet to detect any sibilance examples. Again, these are out of the box impressions. Really hoping the amp gets a hold of the hot treble at some point and melts it a bit, but the boost to the layering in the mids and upper bass is pretty impressive.

 

I also tried my Denon D2000 and found them very harsh and sibilant with the pairing. That was a bleh pairing. I'll have to try these later on. Won't be able to try my Mad Dogs for a few days, as they're at work. 3 day weekend for this amp to burn, burn, burn...

 

Edit: In My Time of Dying with this pairing is ******* EPIC. About to rip through Physical Graffiti right now. Something about Plant's vocals still aren't right, like they are nearly off the soundstage half the time (and the soundstage on the album is massive), plus he is moving around quite a bit. I think the burn in is starting to happen. Some recordings too bright still, but I seem to be having more successes than misses. Hopefully will continue to improve.

 

Another Edit: Around 4 hours in, I heard a loud crackle through the headphones. I have had tubes do this before as they are burning in. Hopefully that is the amp getting acclimated with itself and the stuff hooked up to it. So far, I am really noticing the speed of the headphones, which is not really noticeable on lower headphones or set-ups.


Edited by GoldfishX - 1/18/14 at 7:38am
post #2440 of 2847

guess the source (dac etc.) play a big role in making the sound (mellow, bright, harsh, crisp, etc.), had 3 different hd800 in my setup and wasn't able to make them harsh and/or excessively bright, must be the dac v800 which is on the liquid (non metallic) side of sound, i tried some other dacs, some of which were really bright

 

than i don't get why violectric ships the amp and dac with the general ground jumper set to "lift", sound is much more, musical, extended, crispier and airy with faster attack when set to "gnd", at least in my case, and the ac/dc coupling setting changes the sound too, worth a try

 

got the he-6 yesterday, must say the violectric combo does a good job with this really hard to drive can too

post #2441 of 2847

Letting the amp burn in for a good 40 or so hours, will try it again when I get off work. I'm starting to suspect though I am just extremely sensitive to treble and the HD800 just isn't for me, regardless of the amp. I need to experiment with EQing the higher frequencies (6khz - 10khz) down on top of running it through the V200.

 

Can anyone recommend a darker headphone with a fast decay? Amp would be either the V200 or Lyr. Audeze would be my first thought, but I hate the fit on the LCD headphones. I'm watching that new Oppo PM-1 that is coming out like a hawk. I probably will look into the HD650, although it's not really recommended for faster music (metal).

 

One thing I like about the V200...It seems to pair well with a variety of headphones. My AD2000X that I have up for sale seems to enjoy it, the amp really brought out the mids on it (the mids were almost missing on the Lyr), only up for sale because of the fit. Even though the treble is still there on the HD800, the mids and bass got a real shot in the arm and are layered much better.

post #2442 of 2847

If you want to give some more try to the HD800 check out the anaxilus mod. Changing the cable also worked for me.

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/diy-modification-sennheiser-hd-800-anaxilus-mod

 

Even with the changes i have to admit, I’m reaching for the HE-6 more often than the HD800. It has more organic sound with excellent bass and the highs are great without annoying sibilance. It just suits me better with wider variety of music 

post #2443 of 2847

Has anyone heard the Meier Audio Corda Classic versus the V200? I'm in the market for an amp and these two are on my shortlist.

post #2444 of 2847

Starting to play around with the gain switches on the back. The HD800 treble is still too hot on neutral, but at -6 and -12, it really dampens it pretty nicely. I'm using -6, as -12 dampens everything else too much. I also had MUCH better luck going back to using my DX50 as a source via coax output instead of my computer through USB (regardless of EQ). Plus factor in around 30 hours of burn in. NOW this amp is making my HD800 sing, hard to believe it is the same headphone. The sound is as a lot of reviews have described, warm and detailed like a tube solid state, virtually zero fatigue. Small soundstage and separation isn't that amazing (vocals or guitars tend to dominate the soundstage), but very intimate sounding just the same.

 

Just goes to show, the whole chain is important, not just one aspect of it.

post #2445 of 2847

My HD800s sold yesterday...

 

I tried a few amps with them including Mapletree Purist HD+ , Mapletree  250 , Woo Audio WA2 and eventually settled on the V200...but I was never truly happy.

I never managed to tame that treble to my satisfaction and get the right bottom end for my tastes.

 

The HD800s  did some amazing things but not enough of the time and eventually I realized the HD800s were simply not for me so they have hopefully gone to a more appreciative home...

 

Now ...what to try?

I am seriously interested in the Audeze LCD-X...any more opinions on how they work with the V200-V800 stack?

 

Any other considerations?

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