Review: Violectric HPA V200 amp - Page 142

My V800 generally never clicks when I change tracks or albums.

For my better understanding, we are talking about feeding the V200 with USB-Module via iTunes on a Mac or PC?

Because I´m not sure, if this happens with e.g. the DAC800 connected via Coax or Toslink with a CD-Player.

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Originally Posted by project86 

 

I don't recall ever hearing this from my V800 - at least not when playing the same format. I believe mine does click when switching from one sample rate to another. 

because there is a gradual transient between tracks if u don't switch, go, forward backwards between tracks yourself, even just sliding fwd bck in one track makes clicks in players that doesn't have fade, using v200 that is

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Originally Posted by dynix 

For my better understanding, we are talking about feeding the V200 with USB-Module via iTunes on a Mac or PC?

 

Because I´m not sure, if this happens with e.g. the DAC800 connected via Coax or Toslink with a CD-Player.

it doesn't matter, at least in my case, if it's digital coax or usb, in v800, rca analog out to v200, the clicks r always there if i use v200 and players without fade, like foobar with kernel streaming or vlc, as opposed  to winamp or foobar with direct sound in which case fade is applied before cutting, starting the signal, so there r not clicks

it's like the dust on vinyl clicks

i use v800 to v200, rca analog, and tried m-audio fast track ultra to v200, rca analog, in both cases the clicks r present, but a little attenuated not so fast attacking with the m-audio,

so the clicks are most probably just the v200 preamp gain amp section being very hi-fi and uber quick in correctly amplifying the signal presented to it, or it just doesn't turn itself on/off, when the D/A signal starts/stops, or maybe because it actually is turning itself on/off, could be any of these reasons

in this case a sudden rise from 0V to Vx or drop from Vx to 0V in the signal

that's why there is no audible click when switching between low volume parts of the tracks, or if you set the volume fairly low in your player, or when a track ends and another start without switching yourself fwd bck from/to a loud section

if u hear no clicks it's either because u r using software fade, or using a source that fade, or ur amp is not as hi-fi as the v200

if it does not clicks it's not uber hi-fi ;)

i don't know exactly how the d/a pre and amp r configured or working together in the v200

so i can't give a technical scientifically exact explanation to where and why the clicks forms, ask the people from the lake

now i'm gonna enjoy Ryoji Ikeda 'no' Dataplex from my uber hi-fi can amp that is the v200

Thank you, roskodan, for your detailed explanation.

I think in a few days I have an answer from Fried Reim and I will report here.

And now I´m enjoying Ziggy Stardust :-) with the wonderful V200 and trying to ignore the clicks.

My guess is that it has something to do with the Tenor USB chip (7022 IIRC). The TE8802 in my NFB-17.2 does the same, whereas my Hiface Two with the XMOS chip is hardly noticeable using the same DAC.

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Originally Posted by smoothtalker 

My v200 click on every song with wasapi. This is normal due to the relay in the usb module not receiving any signal in 8sec or something. mine also click every time sample rate changes. My burson also clicks the same way

You can verify this with fried reim.

must be related to any usb and/or maybe the D/A , my m-audio ftu usb do the same,

while connecting my v200 via rca to analog out of my mbp headphones jack using wasapi foobar cs4206a ab39 doesn't result in any clicking whatsoever

but it's interesting how there is clicking, while using usb and/or maybe the D/A, only when interrupting the signal when it's fairly loud, like its volume, of the click, is proportional to the volume of the output signal in the moment of the interruption of the same

another thing is that the same clicking is present, if using wasapi or ds without fade, while connecting pc opt digital out to v800 opt in and than out to v200 rca analog, the possibilities are 2, the v800 usb component is active in the optical digital path of the v800 too, or the actual clicks are actually something within the D/A and/or further down the chain

and it clicks when switching between opt and coax digital streams on the v800 too

Is aphroditecu29 the only vendor to buy the V200 new? His website looks kinda silly. I'm looking to get this amp for the TH900. Having a hard time trying to find one in the US. 

You can order directly from Violectric.  Even with shipping, it is cheaper than buying from ACu29.  Although, depending on your city and state, you might get slapped with import taxes.

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Originally Posted by jronan2 

Is aphroditecu29 the only vendor to buy the V200 new? His website looks kinda silly. I'm looking to get this amp for the TH900. Having a hard time trying to find one in the US. 

I've had the v200 for couple months now and the v800 for a week now.  Really loving the combo.

They really complement each other.  I think this is the best amp and dac I've had so far.  Very content with both.

The amp is musical but not colored and the dac resolving but not clinical.  Together, they present the music in a very lively, detailed and holographic way. 

Got to thank all those who review here like project86 for introducing gear like this. 

Here's my v200/v800 setup.  Hopefully for a long while. 

Any word on the new balanced amp yet?

How about pairing V200/V100 with Beyerdynamic T70, T5p and Grado (325) ?