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So the TWag is 100% silver and never turns blue/green?

 

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I'm pairing mine balanced with the protector and silver dragon iem cable, and got a single-ended twag on the way. hopefully, it will improve. hated the discoloration of the stock clear cable (turning green).



 

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So the TWag is 100% silver and never turns blue/green?

 



 

silver oxide is still silver in color, just slightly dulled, though you wont notice that through the plastic of the cable.
 

 

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Yeah I know, I was just under the impression that these weren't 100% pure

 

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silver oxide is still silver in color, just slightly dulled, though you wont notice that through the plastic of the cable.
 

 



 

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Yeah I know, I was just under the impression that these weren't 100% pure

 



 

oh yeah....you're right, they're only 99.99998% silver   rolleyes.gif   they're totes gonna turn green
 

 

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That's not what I meant redface.gif

 

Having never heard aftermarket cables I'm skeptic as to whether they make an audible difference, but I like the look of a clear/silver cable and the wooden bead on the V2 is sexy aswell.

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someone was just selling a Twag on the marketplace section that had turned green.  I think this happens to all silver regardless.

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someone was just selling a Twag on the marketplace section that had turned green.  I think this happens to all silver regardless.

i think thats odd, i had mine for over 6 months, didnt even show a hint of green, but when i sold it and started using the stock cable, it as green like a week later
 

 

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someone was just selling a Twag on the marketplace section that had turned green.  I think this happens to all silver regardless.


Silver doesn't turn green with oxidation, it turns black.

 

Copper turns green with oxidation. Cables made of copper with a very thin coating of silver may turn green over time, but pure silver won't.
 

 

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Silver doesn't turn green with oxidation, it turns black.

 

Copper turns green with oxidation. Cables made of copper with a very thin coating of silver may turn green over time, but pure silver won't.

 


Yeah, that sounds right.  So why would a Twag turn green?

 

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i dunno...but the twag turned green with oxidation... i've seen pics on the fs forum.... and it was definately green

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I guess one shouldn't be surprised that a cable vendor might use other than specified materials in his products..

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i dunno...but the twag turned green with oxidation... i've seen pics on the fs forum.... and it was definately green

Just to be clear: I wasn't saying you were wrong about that! Just stating the basic chemistry: When silver oxidizes it turns black, when copper oxidizes it turns green.

 

Obviously, the twag cable has quite a bit of copper.

 

Unique melody's Beat Audio cables seem as though they are the same way--I'd be happy to hear differently, though.

 

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Hi Kunlun,


If Twag Cable has copper, they will be in a BIG trouble.....

 

And Stephen from UM sent me this e-mail when I asked about the material used on the Cronus Cable.

 

"Hi,
Those cables are not from UM, but they are  Beat Audio, which is another company that I distribute for that sells high quality cables.
I didn't put the materials on the web pages because Beat Audio lab believes that the sound signatures of cables are more than just material. There are many other factors that contributes to the sound.
However, you still have the right to know about the material.
It suppresses pure copper on the surface of 8NOFC.
Also, the difference in prices reflect their sound quality.

Cheers,

Stephen"

 

    Rodrigo Pita

 

 

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Just to be clear: I wasn't saying you were wrong about that! Just stating the basic chemistry: When silver oxidizes it turns black, when copper oxidizes it turns green.

 

Obviously, the twag cable has quite a bit of copper.

 

Unique melody's Beat Audio cables seem as though they are the same way--I'd be happy to hear differently, though.

 



 

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Hi Kunlun,


If Twag Cable has copper, they will be in a BIG trouble.....

 

And Stephen from UM sent me this e-mail when I asked about the material used on the Cronus Cable.

 

"Hi,
Those cables are not from UM, but they are  Beat Audio, which is another company that I distribute for that sells high quality cables.
I didn't put the materials on the web pages because Beat Audio lab believes that the sound signatures of cables are more than just material. There are many other factors that contributes to the sound.
However, you still have the right to know about the material.
It suppresses pure copper on the surface of 8NOFC.
Also, the difference in prices reflect their sound quality.

Cheers,

Stephen"

 

    Rodrigo Pita

 

 



 

Hi Mr Pita,

I guess they are in big trouble then? I'm pretty sure we are just talking about basic chemisty here.

 

I think oxygen free copper is a bit of a problem because it's not so easy to keep it oxygen free, any degradation of the lining with use or time will lead to oxidation. Thank you very much for the info about Beat Audio cables, though!

 

 

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Hi Mr Pita,

I guess they are in big trouble then? I'm pretty sure we are just talking about basic chemisty here.

 

I think oxygen free copper is a bit of a problem because it's not so easy to keep it oxygen free, any degradation of the lining with use or time will lead to oxidation. Thank you very much for the info about Beat Audio cables, though!

 

 




Don't worry Kunlun, we are just talking about chemisty =)

 

Take Care,

   Rodrigo Pita

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