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Has anyone tried AstoundSound for HD 4D "binaural" audio on their Mac or PC?

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I just downloaded the 30-day free trial for AstoundSound, and I think it's amazing so I wanted to share it with the Head-fi community. It evidently falls under the "Professional MP3 Mixer Software" category, and puts you in a room inside your headphones complete with directional surround cues. This is more than Dolby headphone technology all grown up, it's a real evolutionary step forward. There are versions for both Mac and Windows computers, and it not only works with iTunes but it also works with iTunes > PureMusic on my Mac which means I have to buy it ;^). I like the fact that it is easy to toggle on and off so you can easily A/B the effect. You can also easily change the intensity of the effect, and choose between music, movie and game surround modes.

 

The price to buy a single license is between $20 and $40, depending upon how soon into the 30-day free trial you buy it, and whether you want the 2-year "backup insurance" policy. So far it sounds great with live music and I will buy it for sure. Besides giving you more immersion into the music with headphones, it really widens the "sweet spot" with a two-speaker system:

 

 

"AstoundSound™ uses 4D sound technology software built on over a decade of research and development into how the human brain perceives sound. In a similar way to what Hi-definition did for visual experiences, 4D audio immerses listeners in a 360-degree, realistic sound experience that addresses azimuth, elevation, distance and movement over time. In other words, a 4D listening experience creates the sense of movement in a 3D listening environment.

 

  • Maintains the integrity and realistic tonal characteristics of the original recorded audio when processed.
  • Achieves a 4D experience from as few as 2 output channels, stereo speakers or headphones, yet is compatible with multi-channel presentation formats such as Dolby Digital and DTS.

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  • Requires no specialized hardware.
  • Adds elevation cues from 90-degrees above to 90-degrees below the listening position for a spherical soundscape.

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  • Puts the listener in the center of the sound.
  • Address azimuth, elevation, distance and movement over time.
  • Can move sound sources anywhere within a spherical soundscape in real-time.

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  one of many testimonials from the pro audio sector:

  "This is pretty amazing technology. With only 2 speakers (or headphones) the audio field is dramatically expanded. It makes a pan pot go to "11"! I'm very impressed that it doesn't make music sound gimmicky like surround does – it just opens up the palette for placement. When available, the Pro-tools plug-in will rock. Once you compare a mix with, and then without, it's almost like going back to mono. This could also really benefit home theater users who don't want to deal with rear speaker placement and wires. Wow.""

  http://www.astoundsound.net/technology.php

  edit: I have no connection to this, I just wanted to share a great upgrade.


Edited by grokit - 4/20/11 at 5:48pm
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Thanks, I'l check it out.

post #3 of 18

Trying it now. With Alice In Chains MTV Unplugged I can really hear the effect. But to be honest I like my music

as it's maker intended. As a fun plug-in it's ok. I wouldn't pay for it though. I listen to 98% of music on headphones,

 my brain is use to compensating. I actually prefer the sound to speakers these days. 

 

*removes astoundsound from System Preferences


Edited by MrQ - 4/21/11 at 6:35am
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I'm starting to prefer the effect at it's lowest setting, intensity level 1 (out of three levels). I find that the tonality is the least affected at this setting but you still get a nice surround effect. Listening to the new binaural Chesky release ATM; the AstoundSound effect seems to be less pronounced with binaural recordings.

 

I really liked AstoundSound at first out of my LCD-2 but more so on some songs than others. I think the effect breaks down if the music isn't recorded well, it just seems to amplify the distortion. But on well-recorded music I do like it. Vocals can be hit or miss but where I am really liking it is for solo instrumental performances. I really liked listening to George Winston's piano renditions of Doors music (Night Divides the Day, excellent) with AstoundSound; it felt like I am at a live chamber concert. To me it makes the music more immersive, but I understand that it isn't for everybody. I am looking forward to trying it with movies, that should be interesting as it supposedly is compatible with the cinema surround cues.

post #5 of 18

Is these also an AU For use with something like Logic?  I'm gearing up for a long session of composing and mixing this summer and I'd like to experiment inside a DAW for my compositions with something like this.

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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post

Thanks, I'l check it out.


So...? wink.gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by MrQ View Post

As a fun plug-in it's ok.


Yeah, that's what it is, fun. Not so much for critical listening but I think it is nice to have this available.

 

 

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Originally Posted by WarriorAnt View Post

Is these also an AU For use with something like Logic?  I'm gearing up for a long session of composing and mixing this summer and I'd like to experiment inside a DAW for my compositions with something like this.

 

There is a quote in one of the testimonials that I read, "I'm very impressed that it doesn't make music sound gimmicky like surround does – it just opens up the palette for placement. When available, the Pro-tools plug-in will rock. Once you compare a mix with, and then without, it's almost like going back to mono."

 

Don't know if that helps.


Edited by grokit - 4/21/11 at 11:28pm
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demoing in a few seconds.. curious to see how this compares to isone pro which i own and enjoy

 

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I'll download and start my trial Monday when I have more time to evaluate it after Easter.

post #9 of 18

well.. this is a very straight forward piece of software.. no complications, just off, 1, 2, or 3...oh and the movie/music/game mode, and the preamp... - so you will either like it or you wont probably pretty instantaneously

 

as mentioned i own isone pro, which is a very very tweakable room simulator vst plugin.

i used this demo with foobar just for the record.

 

well the astoundsound is pretty over the top to me.. after about 10 minutes i can say with pretty high confidence that i wont be spending any more time with it.  even on setting 1 its kinda overkill.  very reverby, and reeeeeally skews the frequency response introducing some pretty major sibilance to my usually dark px100's

to me isone pro is hands down way better, and much more adjustable so you can dial it way up or way down.  its just  way more professional and clean sounding.

 

but hey thanks for the info.. always glad to try new stuff like this.

if you like this, try isone pro.. its reeeeeeeally nice.


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Edited by Br777 - 4/21/11 at 10:33pm
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Hmm, Isone Pro is Windows-only unfortunately (I may give it a try though, as I dual-boot), but what I find interesting is how little CPU/OS power it uses; it still runs on Windows 98! Whoops, I dual-boot into Windows 7 and it's not ported to that yet, so no Isone Pro after all. I have a Vista laptop but I don't use it for music much.

"OS: Windows Vista/XP/2000/98

  • Requirements: No special requirements"

Edited by grokit - 4/22/11 at 1:40am
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Originally Posted by Br777 View Post

 

Hmm, Isone Pro is Windows-only unfortunately (I may give it a try though, as I dual-boot), but what I find interesting is how little CPU/OS power it uses; it still runs on Windows 98! Whoops, I dual-boot into Windows 7 and it's not ported to that yet, so no Isone Pro after all. I have a Vista laptop but I don't use it for music much.

"OS: Windows Vista/XP/2000/98

  • Requirements: No special requirements"


If it runs on Vista, it runs on 7. There are VERY rare exceptions of a piece of software that runs on Vista but not on 7. Requirements aren't always correct as they're not updated as often as desired.

post #12 of 18

^ yeah i have win7 and it works fine.  i use it as a vst plugin via foobar.  maybe there are other ways to use it that dont work? i dunno.


 

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Originally Posted by Br777 View Post

^ yeah i have win7 and it works fine.  i use it as a vst plugin via foobar.  maybe there are other ways to use it that dont work? i dunno.



Good to know that Isone Pro will work with Windows 7 at least under certain circumstances. 

Just spelling it out because it didn't come up in a Google search yesterday but it probably will now smile_phones.gif

post #14 of 18

To be honest, I have hated every single one of these "turn your headphones into speakers" plugins that I have tried. I would say that this one is the best of the worst, but that really is like saying it is the shiniest turd in the toilet.

post #15 of 18
even with isone, i still feel the experience "normal" vs isone is 6 one half dozen the other. isone sounds better, but i know its altering the sound signature, normal sounds better, but its not as expanded.. i can never definitively decide that i prefer one over the other - and the longer i stick to one, the more i appreciate the other when i switch back. I liken it to switching between to equally great pairs of headphones that have very different sound signatures.
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