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Edited by qusp - 5/30/11 at 11:28am
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Looks like a sandwicheek.gif  I bet the SQ is proportional to its size.wink.gif

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Edited by High_Q - 5/30/11 at 11:50am
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I've always found the bigger the sandwich the better the taste.  So, yup, bigger rig sandwich = better SQ!

post #94 of 1641

Cooperpwc,

 

Your comparison of the iMod and the iPod+Solo is very compelling - and very credible in that you've identified the strengths of both of them with obvious affection.  Thanks!

 

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I personally don't crave the sonic traits you've said the iMod has vs. the Solo (warmth, darkness) as much as I crave detail and transparency.  I'm nuts for resolution because I'm convinced that with it comes a sense of reality.  Without it, the soundstage comes in close to your head and you're no longer able to "see" as far beyond your ears as you would in real life.  When the resolving power of a system is lacking, those low-level, airy signals that define the soundstage and bring the image into sharp focus (as opposed to, worst case, a blob on each side of your head) are lost under noise and distortion (under a lack of resolution).  I recently reached this conclusion on my own while comparing amps, only to read Tom Martin's review of the Apex P/V a few days later, where he says much the same thing:

 

 

Quote from http://www.avguide.com/review/apex-peak-headphone-amp-volcano-power-supply-playback-44:

 

Listening to the Peak/Volcano combo suggests that a really good front end can do a lot to restore the highest levels sonic transparency that sometimes seem lacking in headphone-based systems. In short, this amp has an astonishing level of resolving power that shows up in its superior handling of spatial information, instrumental decays, and other low-level signals. These small signals are a key test of amplifier resolving power. This isn’t just a sporting thing; it’s the kind of difference that really matters for many kinds of music—if you care about realism.

The Peak/Volcano also expresses its superior resolution in the way it separates instruments. Many amps create a harmoniously blended sound on ensemble work (e.g., the sound of many instruments playing in a band at the same time)—a sound that is pleasantly homogenized, yet for that very reason is also inaccurate. The Peak/Volcano helps you realize that this kind of homogenized presentation is actually the result of lesser amplifiers smearing the distinct sounds of individual instruments into a wash. Once the Peak/Volcano’s much higher levels of resolution come into play, however, you instead hear more detailed contributions from each instrument in the ensemble, and in a way that doesn’t sound at all unnatural, but rather sounds more like the real thing.

 

If the iPod Classic 7 + CLAS can do their part to deliver this kind of resolution, Stepdance and LCD-2 willing, I'm drooling already.  tongue_smile.gif

 

Mike


Edited by zilch0md - 5/31/11 at 12:14am
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Hi kiwirugby,

 

 

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From my experiences with the 4G and the 5.5 iMods (with a Pico Slim at the moment) and now with the 7G iPod Classic+Solo+Slim, I would agree with cooperpwc's assessment.   The Solo adds a sound quality value for me that is quite dramatic, the most notable of which includes the separation and placement of instruments, the accuracy and clarity of the sounds different instruments make, the much better definitions of sound quality at the extremes of the frequency spectrum, and a real richness of sound.   (I listen mostly to classical and jazz with JH13s.)  As cooperpwc says, imaging is fantastic.  Agree whole-heartedly.

 

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I you can save the right amount of pennies, I would suggest you get off that fence and buy the Solo.   Sorry...!!

 


No need for apologies (unless you tell me I'll have to replace my Stepdance with a Slim).  redface.gif  

 

You're singing my song with yet another comment regarding resolving power translating to better imaging.  

 

Thanks so much for adding your thoughts!

 

Mike

 

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High_Q

 

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So true.  I was looking at the size of the solo, and was shaking my head.  I would not touch that with a stick.  Just look at the size of the thing and the price?  Not worth it.  Don't even know how well it perform, haven't seen any real review(not some audiphile BS, measurements).  The fact that it's being sold at 6moons, or ALO audio turns me off.  I have a diymod, and happy with that.  

 


I welcome your input, too, but I've recently learned the hard way that it's best not to post negative impressions in a thread where the fans would take offense.  The sensible alternative is to speak your piece while standing on friendly soil.  

 

Please send me a PM if you'd like to tell me why your diyMod is a better value - how you did it, what you like about it, etc.  I'm genuinely interested.  

 

I'm all for getting 90% of the way there for 75% of the cost, but I might not want to go 50% of the way there for only 25% of the cost.

 

Thanks,

 

Mike

 

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It's pretty obvious why I think my diymod is better, just look at the thing and it limited functionality(I think it can be done better with more fuctionality with much more reasonable price(high price and ALO goes hand and hand from what I've seen, look at his markups on his cables)).  Also, I'm here to give an honest impression, I'm not here to add anymore to the hype that there is in this thread.  I'd like to see a thread being as neutral as possible.  I think it would be more impartial for the people that reads these threads.
 

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High_Q

 


I welcome your input, too, but I've recently learned the hard way that it's best not to post negative impressions in a thread where the fans would take offense.  The sensible alternative is to speak your piece while standing on friendly soil.  

 

Please send me a PM if you'd like to tell me why your diyMod is a better value - how you did it, what you like about it, etc.  I'm genuinely interested.  

 

I'm all for getting 90% of the way there for 75% of the cost, but I might not want to go 50% of the way there for only 25% of the cost.

 

Thanks,

 

Mike

 



 


Edited by High_Q - 5/30/11 at 2:01pm
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I must admit the ALO thing turned me off too.  I have three of their interconnects and have had trouble of one kind or another with all of them.  Last time i tried to find if something could be done with one of them to get it right, my emails were left with silence.  I spend a lot on audio but not another dime will go to ALO.  

 

On the other hand the Solo looks great and I miss the capacity and ease of my ipod since i got the HM801.

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It's pretty obvious why I think my diymod is better, just look at the thing and it limited functionality(I think it can be done better with more fuctionality with much more reasonable price(high price and ALO goes hand and hand from what I've seen, look at his markups on his cables)).  Also, I'm here to give an honest impression, I'm not here to add anymore to the hype that there is in this thread.  I'd like to see a thread being as neutral as possible.  I think it would be more impartial for the people that reads these threads.


I think you should save your opinions for some thing you actually know something about. You are obviously not in a position to comment on the CLAS by way of comparison as you only have the imod. I have both to compare and can tell you the CLAS with the ipod classic beats the imod hands down in terms of SQ plus a much friendlier/prettier UI.

 

I suggest as you are not able to comment on the CLAS (This is a thread about discussions and impressions of the CLAS) you jog on and annoy another thread thread about something you know nothing of!! Jeez rolleyes.gif
 

 

post #100 of 1641

^You are wrong.  It's an impressions thread and I can comment as I wish.  I can comment on the way it looks, and its functionality.  There are many other I can comment on without owning it.  There is no written rules that states I cannot comment on CLAS if I don't own it, and I state again they are all my opinons.  

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^You are wrong.  It's an impressions thread and I can comment as I wish.  I can comment on the way it looks, and its functionality.  There are many other I can comment on without owning it.  There is no written rules that states I cannot comment on CLAS if I don't own it, and I state again they are all my opinons.  


Yes, you can comment as you wish.  But you really should hear it.

post #102 of 1641
But surely an opinion is only valid if you have experience of the product which is what this thread is about.

Your opinions are yours of course but for me I shall ignore then as you have no idea of the product as you have not even heard it. You don't have to own it to make comments but at least hear it before making comments that are non constructive!

Also, Kens cables are expensive but have you heard them or personal experience of the company? I have and have had nothing but positive dealings with Ken and also a great deal of improved sound quality with his products.

I am glad you like your imod, by all accounts it is a wonderful player.
Edited by ianmedium - 5/30/11 at 3:00pm
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Impressions would imply you would have had to have heard or used it in order to comment. We could all comment about looks but functionality is what the CLAS does best and that you can't comment on.

 

At risk of sounding as dense as you, do you actually know what the CLAS does? Judging by your comments, I'm not sure you do.... Why are you even here if you are happy with what you have?

 

Ignorance is bliss so they say, you must be blissed out!

post #104 of 1641

^Wrong again.  You imply a lot.  And they are all false.  You should just stop.  And you are being quite rude.  My comments are opinions that may be disagreeable, but yours are very personal attacks.

 

Now who is dense?smile.gif  I'm just recycling your choice of wording.


Edited by High_Q - 5/30/11 at 3:21pm
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Isn't it past your bed time?

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