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post #1306 of 1651
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

For those of you who moved from the 1.69Vrms to 2.0Vrms, aside from a volume increase (and the clean up of noise), do you feel the an improvement in mid-bass filling in and overall soundstage/imaging (giving a fuller sound)?


I have all 3x -dBs (1.2Vrms, 1.69Vrms, 2.0Vrms) side-by-side and it seems the latest seems to improve in sound quality too. I talked to David @ Cypherlabs and he mentioned that he did improve the sonics too (as opposed of 1.2Vrms -> 1.69Vrms, it was more just volume increase).


Oh man, now you're making me wonder if it's worth sending my unit to Cypher Labs for updating. Do they charge a lot to do the update?  My unit isn't even 6 months old yet.

post #1307 of 1651
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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post


Oh man, now you're making me wonder if it's worth sending my unit to Cypher Labs for updating. Do they charge a lot to do the update?  My unit isn't even 6 months old yet.
Update is free (maybe pay shipping only?? I don't know). I PM-ed you on FB.
post #1308 of 1651
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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post


Oh man, now you're making me wonder if it's worth sending my unit to Cypher Labs for updating. Do they charge a lot to do the update?  My unit isn't even 6 months old yet.

I sent my 1.2Vrms -dB to David and just got it yesterday. There is much more volume control without having distortion at higher vol. All I paid was the shipping (5.15 USD)
Cheers.
post #1309 of 1651
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

For those of you who moved from the 1.69Vrms to 2.0Vrms, aside from a volume increase (and the clean up of noise), do you feel the an improvement in mid-bass filling in and overall soundstage/imaging (giving a fuller sound)?


I have all 3x -dBs (1.2Vrms, 1.69Vrms, 2.0Vrms) side-by-side and it seems the latest seems to improve in sound quality too. I talked to David @ Cypherlabs and he mentioned that he did improve the sonics too (as opposed of 1.2Vrms -> 1.69Vrms, it was more just volume increase).

Like I have already mentioned from my previous post in thus thread .

Source : iPhone 4S
Dac : cyberlabs 1,69 Vrms and 2,00 Vrms
Amp : alo Rx 3 B I have use MID GAIN
Headphone : ultrasone sig DJ
Cable : balance RSA to RSA

The result as follow :

1,69 Vrms vs 2,00 Vrms
High :
1,69 Vrns : slightly more extended than 2,00Vrms
Has better detail compare 1,69 Vrms

Mid :
2,00 Vrms : is more forward than 1,69 Vrms
1,69 Vrms : is sweeter mid and clearer than 2,00 Vrms

Bass :
2,00 Vrms : has more bass volume and has better bass impact than 1,69 Vrms
Like you hear the bass from subwoofer .
1,69 Vrms : has more detail but less bass impact compare 2,00 Vrms

Separation :
1,69 Vrms has better music separation than 2,00 Vrms

Soundstage :
1,69 Vrms has wider soundstage than 2,00 Vrms
2,00 Vrms has narrower soundstage than 1,69 Vrms , remain me like my class solo old version

My IMO is :
For pair with high impendance Headphones and Orthos , the new version 2,00 Vrms is better
Sound fuller than 1,69 Vrms

For pair with low impendance Headphones and iems , the 1,69 Vrms is better

Like with ultrasone Sig DJ is low impedance headphone ,1,69 Vrms has better synergy
if I use 2,00 Vrms to much and Faster fatigue to my ears .

Note :
My 2,00 Vrms haven't burn in properly just run 30 hours .
That's why I keep my 1,69 Vrms and bought 2,00 Vrms
Now my feeling is proved to own these two cyberlabs class - dB for various use of my iems and headphones collection .


Edited by rudi0504 - 5/6/13 at 7:24am
post #1310 of 1651

Right but this is Head-Fi and the differences must be slight subtleties?

 

Also presumably going forward all new units will be 2.0Vrms and 'channel imbalance fixed', thus negating the discussion

post #1311 of 1651
Hey Rudi

Do you experience any volume pot scratching noise with any amps while using the new 2.00 -dB?

Cheers
post #1312 of 1651
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Originally Posted by Room40 View Post

Hey Rudi

Do you experience any volume pot scratching noise with any amps while using the new 2.00 -dB?

Cheers

Hi Room40
I don't have problem with volume pot scratching pairing my ckass -dB 2,00 Vrms pairing with my amps , like here alo Rx 3 B and Pico Power .



post #1313 of 1651
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Originally Posted by rudi0504 View Post


Hi Room40
I don't have problem with volume pot scratching pairing my ckass -dB 2,00 Vrms pairing with my amps , like here alo Rx 3 B and Pico Power .



 

Are you making bomb? It looks like rocket science to me :D


Edited by midnightwalker - 5/9/13 at 2:37pm
post #1314 of 1651

The pot scratchiness is gone when not playing music, but when you play music, during quiet passages, the pot will scratch some. 

 

So, with the new increased power level, I am able to plug in IEMs straight into the line out of the -db and have plenty of power to spare. 

 

Great amps, especially tubes can give the sound a special characteristic, but at the end of the day, it's still coloration, it's still more electronics for the music to get through. While plugging in to the CLAS is not as warm as using my 71B, the transparency and detail are completely addicting. Sounds so fresh and so clean!

 

Try it out, see what you think.

post #1315 of 1651

Just received my upgrade CLAS -db from David.  Much better!  I was having trouble hearing some of my quieter classical recordings using my high-ish impedance AKG K701s.

 

David is such a 'CLAS' act -- super-quick turnaround and even new peripherals included in the return shipment.  (Now I have a charger for the office -- thanks!)

 

Great product and a great service!

post #1316 of 1651

Just received my replacement -dB too as Ive been OS.

 

Excellent service from David bigsmile_face.gif

post #1317 of 1651
I had a very favorible experience with him as well when trying to find an upgraded -R that had the fix. Love the personal extra mile that he goes.
post #1318 of 1651
David from Cyberlab is the best person for his excelent Customer service
My imo the best Customer service In audio World .
post #1319 of 1651
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Originally Posted by midnightwalker View Post

Are you making bomb? It looks like rocket science to me biggrin.gif

I SM sorry midnightwalker

I am to Lazy to take Out from My rigs set Up , just connect directly biggrin.gif
post #1320 of 1651
I am sorry wrong place
Edited by rudi0504 - 5/11/13 at 3:29am
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