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Been very impressed for a week now with the solo-r. For economic reasons, didn't experience the first CLAS. But the solo-r is a good buy in elevating my boring ipod with lossless files. I strongly believe in cables and got the silver dragon for both cable types. Using the DT1350 aand a very good match with the solo-r coupled with the ALO National. Feature I like most is that it charges the I-device.

Listening to Cassandra Wilson "Travelling Miles."
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Originally Posted by dj nellie View Post
Also, it's nice to see that the -dB can be used as a USB DAC, though it remains to be seen if it can compete in the $700 (or less) USB DAC market, which seems to have lots of good options these days.

 

To the floor:

 

(1) Is the Clas a better iDevice dac than a computer dac?

(2) How does it incidentally compare to other computer dacs?

 

Yes I know it is apples and oranges and serve completely different purposes but want to know all the same. In the UK a Clas + amp combo would cost more than a dacport + dragonfly combo. Actually it would cost the same as an M-Dac (which I have had a home loan of alongside the Invicta)

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Does anyone know if the CLAS can drive low impedance (16 ohm) iems directly, without an amp? Thanks.
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Does anyone know if the CLAS can drive low impedance (16 ohm) iems directly, without an amp? Thanks.
And how do you intend to control the volume when the -dB doesn't have a pot?
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Does anyone know if the CLAS can drive low impedance (16 ohm) iems directly, without an amp? Thanks.

well I hooked up my IEMs up to the -R, before I sent it back, the W4s, and ASGs, and the output is so uber low I could barely hear the music? so you will acually need an amp to run them effectively, I also hooked up my IEMs directly to my original CLAS and it was moderately better, but listenable, and I always thought that the output was supposed to be too much for listening to it directly?

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And how do you intend to control the volume when the -dB doesn't have a pot?


I was thinking about the Dacport LX which I read it can drive sensitive iem's pretty good. I thought the volume is controlled from the computer. Could it be the same with the CLAS -db in case of usb connection? Or even hooked to an iDevice - control its volume from there.

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I was thinking about the Dacport LX which I read it can drive sensitive iem's pretty good. I thought the volume is controlled from the computer. Could it be the same with the CLAS -db in case of usb connection? Or even hooked to an iDevice - control its volume from there.


The output straight from the Line Out is quite low.

 

So from an iDevice, no you cannot control the volume from the iDevice. Although the volume bar slides, the output on the Line Out is fixed.

 

As for the PC, yes (at least with Audirvana+) that you can control the volume form the PC. However the max volume is again as above, low.

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I see, thanks for explaining.
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well what a very nice change to having some play time on it! the sound has smoothed over by quit a bit, mids aren't so much more forward then the lows and highs, I am really liking it alot more so now, lots of detail, clear and analytical? so its soundstage is filling out more with some burnning in! I have been listening back and forth all day, my iPod gets low I throw the -R onto it, charge it up and then throw the CLAS back on, and play the -R in between times!

 

but now I have discovered that the -R won't play my W4s with my Lisa3? it will play my ASGs, but not the W4s? the sound cuts out at a certain point, gets thin as heck, and the bass stops working? not so with using it along with the dynamic driver on the ASGs? I could blow my ears out if I wanted too?

 

and with my C&Cxo2, the -R won't play at all with either IEM? the sound cuts out completely when I turn it up to a decent level? it will almost get there and then nothing, I have to turn the amp off and then on again when it cuts out to get the sound back? ugh? the CLAS plays both IEMs on the C&C great! no issue with having it too load and cutting out? 

 

I would love to keep it, but with it not working with 2 out of my 3 amps, I really can't? but I am coming to really liking the SOUND! 

 

not sure if Cypher could increase the output? and if so would that fix the compatability issue? I e-mailed them, and as for the Lisa3 they seemed as if they understood why? something with the lower output? which is kind of nice, as I can now turn up the volume pot, and really get past the initial volume imbalance, but a small bonus over the fact that I don't have an amp I can use with my W4s? the Voyager doesn't play BAs well? the Lisa is a great pairing with the W4s and the CLAS! but not so with the -R? or with the C&C?

 

but the sound is coming along oh ssooo nicely!  

 

hhhmmm, what to do, fingers crossed! 

 

 

hey, are you still having issue with your xo2?  i'm having issue with xo(original) with r too.  my case it's just have no sound on one side, mostly right side.  also sr71 and sr71a somewhat as well.  for the sr71, they're completely fine when the batteries are fresh/fully charged.  after a couple hours(3, 4 albums) the amp sound like is running out of battery.  when i take the solo r out and put the ipod and the amp back together it sings again(without charging the batteries). 

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Just got my -db and if I turn it up on my RSA P-51 past about 1/4 way up, sound cuts out completely. Any word from Cypher labs about this?

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Fast reply from CL:


Paraphrase due to legal reasons:

 

They apologized, mentioned this model has a lower output to support more IEM customers changed to 1.69v. RSA Intruder works fine. They test the products with a variety of amps, but is impossible to test with every amp and many amps are designed very differently.

 

Offered to pay for return shipping. Very professional.

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What a shame. I really like this little thing. I am inclined to find a new amp that works!


Edited by SoundFreaq - 1/24/13 at 9:08am
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Originally Posted by SoundFreaq View Post

Fast reply from CL:


Paraphrase due to legal reasons:

 

They apologized, mentioned this model has a lower output to support more IEM customers changed to 1.69v. RSA Intruder works fine. They test the products with a variety of amps, but is impossible to test with every amp and many amps are designed very differently.

 

Offered to pay for return shipping. Very professional.

_____

 

What a shame. I really like this little thing. I am inclined to find a new amp that works!

 

 

yea what a shame but since they offer for a money back.  maybe i'll try to find an amp/amps that can mate well with the solo. 

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I'm loving the sound so much that I just can't go back. Just snagged an SR-71b to replace my P-51. Hope that works!

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I forgot to mention that they may release a higher voltage version, but that will be a few weeks. 


Edited by SoundFreaq - 1/24/13 at 10:55am
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I forgot to mention that they may release a higher voltage version, but that will be a few weeks. 

that would be nice, I would very much be interested in a higher voltage version! count me in! 

 

sent my -R back becuse it isn't compatable with 2 of the 3 amps I have? Lisa3, C&Cxo2? BAs only with the L3, but with the Voyager all was well, but the Voyager doesn't play BAs well though, ggrrr ugh!

 

so I was digging on the -Rs sound, kind of uber nice, it was growing on me! but because of the uber low output no go? CL told me the exact some thing, no reimbursement with shipping costs? no biggie a small price to pay to beable to try it out!

 

I picked up the HP-P1? not really for me? ggrrr ugh! lol, will be listing tha soon,


Edited by ANDEROAN - 1/24/13 at 12:29pm
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