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post #1051 of 1651
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Originally Posted by Room40 View Post

Very nice AnakChan 

 

I bought the -dB and its sitting here in the Fedex depot over the weekend. Should get it Monday

 

How does the combo sound and how do the closed in LCD3s sound? Have you hooked your DX100 up to it or only iPod?

 

 

I sorta held back giving thoughts on the closed Audeze 'cos I really hadn't spent much time with them nor with LCDs in general (I know, temporaryname will say "But when he was in Perth he heard my LCDs!!" ;-)). These days I don't trust my ears nor my memory so I'd rather listen over a few different days. Having said that, I'd personally say it's nice enough to want me to spend more time with it for a decent critique. Unfortunately I can't since it's on display at the Fujiya Show. ButI think most important is that this thing is still prototype or proof of concept - I believe only 2 or 3 were made?

 

I used the balanced DAC/Amp rig with my iPhone & my FitEar TG!334 with balanced 000 cables. Sadly today I have spent NO time listening on that setup at all.

post #1052 of 1651

Thanks AnakChan! That is a great list of upgrades. I really like the AKM DAC's. Also nice to have the same charger for multiple devices.

post #1053 of 1651
Thread Starter 

This doesn't seem to have been discussed yet, and it hasn't been posted on ALO or Cypher Lab's websites, but I think prospective buyers would like to know that all of the -dB units which have shipped so far are being recalled.  Apparently, a flaw was discovered which results in out-of-phase sound when the -dB's balanced output is used.

 

To its credit, ALO/Cypher seems to be handling the situation well, and is offering free return shipping or refunds.  However, -dB owners were notified that it will take about 3 weeks from now for the new -dBs to become available.  This seems to indicate that the current units will be swapped out with new ones, rather than just getting repaired or having parts replaced.

 

My unit hasn't arrived yet (thanks to Hurricane Sandy and living overseas), so I can't comment on how serious the defect is.  It is a bit disappointing that a seemingly obvious flaw with one of the -dB's primary selling points (balanced output) wasn't uncovered sooner, but I realize that this is one of the risks of being an early adopter.  However, it's not clear whether this flaw was discovered by a customer or by ALO; I would be more comfortable if the flaw was something that only a large group of users putting the unit through rigorous daily use could expose, but it doesn't seem that way.

 

In any event, I'm confident that, in the end, I'll be happy with the -dB.  As long as it sounds at least as good as the original CLAS and delivers on the new features, it will turn out to be worth the delay.

post #1054 of 1651

The info was put in the New CypherLabs Product thread. Personally I don't think it's relevant if the flaw was discovered by a customer or ALO. As long as the flaw was discovered and remediated as early as possible.

post #1055 of 1651
Thread Starter 

It's true that CL and ALO seem to be handling the problem well, but the recall does seem to suggest that the -dB was rushed to market.  Especially if the out of phase problem can be easily heard within a short testing period.

 

Also, I don't know why the news wasn't posted on the ALO and Cypher Labs websites.  I understand the inclination to conduct damage control, and perhaps the info. is only relevant to current owners, but anyone buying now should also be aware that they're in for at least a 3-week delay.

 

As I said, all will probably be forgiven if there aren't any future problems, and the -dB sounds as good as the impressions so far (of which there are disappointingly few) seem to suggest.

post #1056 of 1651

Many people can't hear the difference when you flip the phase.  But some can.  I didn't really pay too much attention at RMAF, being so noisy and everything there.

post #1057 of 1651
Does solo -db upsample everything to 24/192 or not?
post #1058 of 1651

Is it correctly understod that the -r will not connect to computers (PC/MAC) like the -dB but still only to iOS devices like the old Solo?

post #1059 of 1651
Yep
post #1060 of 1651

OK. I think it would be worth spending a bit more and have a DAC for the PC even though I do not think I will be using the balanced output. 

post #1061 of 1651

Any luck on pairing the galaxy S3 with the solo ?   I have both and would love to do it.

post #1062 of 1651
The Solo (except for the dB which also has usb input) is an iDevice only dac
post #1063 of 1651
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Originally Posted by nc8000 View Post

The Solo (except for the dB which also has usb input) is an iDevice only dac

 

I thought both new models were also a std USB DAC.  Thanks for the info.

post #1064 of 1651
I'm pretty sure that only the dB provides usb
post #1065 of 1651
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Originally Posted by nc8000 View Post

I'm pretty sure that only the dB provides usb

 

Yes it does. My 24/192 comes up as 24/176.4 too so I'm very happy :-

 

 

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