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Collateral damage #? : two of the most extreme pics of turntables yet seen ( relegating the top VPI as the third one in the link to a mere also run ) :

 

http://www.oobject.com/category/most-extreme-turntables/

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This was a very cool table to look at. I did not get a listen. The small 2 channel speaker and integrated next to it were cool too.

It is called the iFi Retro system : https://www.facebook.com/iFiAudio

 

Ifi's modern take on the venerable LS3/5A theme originally designed by the BBC - 4 decades ago - married to some of the absolutely latest in computer audio, everything clad into retro looks.


I would expect it to sell really well. Great sound, looks and functionality in a nice compact system.

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It's a neat package alright, but I don't expect it to -really- affordable. It's clearly Chinese made but it has definitely better engineering ideas. But that is what probably makes it expensive.

And frankly, as a former proud owner of a pair of original Rogers LS3/5a 16Ohm loudspeakers, the LS3.5 name is a freeloader plagiary stealing the glory of a tried and tested formula. Just like the big blue Armoni towel I own. Nothing really wrong with the towel, but it's clearly a Turkish knockoff. I know how the industry works, especially Chinese audio (I have quite some experience in buying, using and modifying Chinese audio gear). I think this is a great concept, but I reckon it'll cost around $1500. In China this would cost a mere $400.
And a EL34 is really the most basic entrypoint tube I can think of. It is a tube and it delivers a lot of power for a cheap tube, but it is one of my least favorite tubes around. What is between their (famous?) dac and this amp makes a lot of difference.

But the set looks nice.
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Saw an article somewhere that had it at 1500 GBP

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It's a neat package alright, but I don't expect it to -really- affordable. It's clearly Chinese made but it has definitely better engineering ideas. But that is what probably makes it expensive.

And frankly, as a former proud owner of a pair of original Rogers LS3/5a 16Ohm loudspeakers, the LS3.5 name is a freeloader plagiary stealing the glory of a tried and tested formula. Just like the big blue Armoni towel I own. Nothing really wrong with the towel, but it's clearly a Turkish knockoff. I know how the industry works, especially Chinese audio (I have quite some experience in buying, using and modifying Chinese audio gear). I think this is a great concept, but I reckon it'll cost around $1500. In China this would cost a mere $400.
And a EL34 is really the most basic entrypoint tube I can think of. It is a tube and it delivers a lot of power for a cheap tube, but it is one of my least favorite tubes around. What is between their (famous?) dac and this amp makes a lot of difference.

But the set looks nice.


Fine.  So, move to China.:smile:

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Fine.  So, move to China.:smile:

NOT soooo fine - when you have to shorten the cycling race due to smog as in recent Tour of Beijing ...

 

I read they had to enforce the most rigorous car emission policy in the world - when you have Chinese Number of cars pouring in big industrial centres each day for work, this is no picnic !

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Fine.  So, move to China.:smile:

NOT soooo fine - when you have to shorten the cycling race due to smog as in recent Tour of Beijing ...

 

I read they had to enforce the most rigorous car emission policy in the world - when you have Chinese Number of cars pouring in big industrial centres each day for work, this is no picnic !


Yeah, but if you really want cheap stuff ..........................

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So I was right about the 1500, only the currency wrong. Thats €1900 or almost $2500. Like I said; not exactly cheap in my book. And probably not exactly high end in my book either, rather a first brushing.

And why would I move to China when there is Ebay and Taobao, Aliexpress etc? I know this is not the right thread, but Chinese audio can be had a lot cheaper than the regular brands in the B&M stores. I don't mind them 'globalizing', outsourcing or w/e you want to call it when mfg is done in China under western management, QC etc. but I also see products that are engineered and made in China and rebranded with a 1000% price premium (yes, 10x the price) for sale in the West. One example; Red Rose Audio (from the person M. Levinson, Mr Catrall tongue.gif, not the company).
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So I was right about the 1500, only the currency wrong. Thats €1900 or almost $2500. Like I said; not exactly cheap in my book. And probably not exactly high end in my book either, rather a first brushing.

And why would I move to China when there is Ebay and Taobao, Aliexpress etc? I know this is not the right thread, but Chinese audio can be had a lot cheaper than the regular brands in the B&M stores. I don't mind them 'globalizing', outsourcing or w/e you want to call it when mfg is done in China under western management, QC etc. but I also see products that are engineered and made in China and rebranded with a 1000% price premium (yes, 10x the price) for sale in the West. One example; Red Rose Audio (from the person M. Levinson, Mr Catrall tongue.gif, not the company).

currency converter

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currency converter

1500 British Pound Sterling equals
1887.34 Euro

 

1887.34 Euro equals
2408.04 US Dollar
 
No issues with the math.  Just a bit of rounding.
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So I was right about the 1500, only the currency wrong. Thats €1900 or almost $2500. Like I said; not exactly cheap in my book. And probably not exactly high end in my book either, rather a first brushing.

And why would I move to China when there is Ebay and Taobao, Aliexpress etc? I know this is not the right thread, but Chinese audio can be had a lot cheaper than the regular brands in the B&M stores. I don't mind them 'globalizing', outsourcing or w/e you want to call it when mfg is done in China under western management, QC etc. but I also see products that are engineered and made in China and rebranded with a 1000% price premium (yes, 10x the price) for sale in the West. One example; Red Rose Audio (from the person M. Levinson, Mr Catrall tongue.gif, not the company).

Well, iFi Audio is NOT a rebranded made in Anyplace - it is outsourced to chinese manufacturer(s) under close supervision of HQ in England (AMR).  iFi is building a rather unique bussiness model - crowd designing. Just check the iFi Audio micro iDSD DAC thread(s) here on HF - it will be soon clear they really offer not only good value, but in some ways design features not available anyplace else - for a reasonable coin.  It is micro (more or less ) that is the "brain" of the Retro - and many companies would, provided they were capable of doing it in the first place, charge for the DAC alone similar to what ifi charges for an (average?) tube amp and a quite nice pair of speakers thrown into the mix.

 

And yes, the first (and last...) time I heard Red Rose it was the sound I strive to escape from ASAP. Somewhat different than old ML gear ...

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Vs: Post A Photograph Of Your Turntable

Not a turntable but RIAA phono preamp for turntable use: TCC TC-450.
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I have not tried it yet so no idea how it sounds.
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In the process of trying yo restore a beautiful Michell Prisma...but parts are so hard to find/

New base after being hand oiled and polishedI would like to find a spare main bearing and spindle assy. as well as a spare motor/The original legs had lost their spring and I made a base and hand oiled the wood.Planning on upgrading the Grado gold pickup soon

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In the process of trying yo restore a beautiful Michell Prisma...but parts are so hard to find/

New base after being hand oiled and polishedI would like to find a spare main bearing and spindle assy. as well as a spare motor/The original legs had lost their spring and I made a base and hand oiled the wood.Planning on upgrading the Grado gold pickup soon

IIRC I did tell you where/how parts can be obtained.

 

Transcriptors Reference Hydraulic/Electronic > under licence from Transcriptors: Michell Prisma Hydraulic/Electronic > under license from Michel ? (Transcriptors ? )

in Germany - Transrotor AC ( these are units made in UK rebadged  : http://www.fairaudio.de/artikel/2014-firmenberichte/transrotor-raeke-hifi-firmengeschichte-artikel-2.html ) - so checking ebay - and specially ebay.de makes sense. I have seen spindle assy about a month ago on ebay.de, but so far have not seen any main bearings for ANY Transcriptors/etc sold separately. It may have been available from the seller of this http://www.ebay.de/itm/Michell-transcription-turntable-platter-mint-/141425900803?pt=Turntable_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20eda3fd03 - but by now only the platter and main plinth are still available. 

 

Transcriptors Reference is being refurbished if nothing else for its looks - and is highly sought after and valued accordingly. If you use something like http://www.ebay.de/itm/ISOKINETIK-ISOMAT-1-ACRYLIC-TURNTABLE-MAT-IDEAL-FOR-TRANSCRIPTORS-MICHELLL-/231359345343?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables&hash=item35de1772bf with it ( available from few other mfg as well ) and on good support, it can sound astonisingly good with a high(er) compliance cartridge - SME III is no slouch in this case and SME III is one of the few arms available that can tame the proverbiably hard-to-tame Grado; a (near) perfectly stable operation is always achievable, even for the notorius Signature series that tend(ed) to misbehave in practically anything

but Grado's own arm until SME III came along.

 

The most iconic scene featuring Transcriptors Hydraulic ( which David Gammon, the main force behind Transcriptors, gave to Stanley Kubrick for the purpose of filming the movie - and never saw it again; yet it was THE best and most successful commercial for a turntable - EVER !!! ):

 

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Vs: Post A Photograph Of Your Turntable

Here's my turntable and receiver with phono preamp.
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They are on a kitchen table for testing. Preamp works nicely. Sound is good and clear. RIAA works as intended. Amplifier could be a bit more powerful but it does it's job. It runs without any issues both 9V battery and 12V PSU.
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