Scary and beautiful, simultaneously.
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Scary and beautiful, simultaneously.
Well, if you can't resist criticizing, then I guess you just can't.
For me, I simply enjoy the turntable porn, which is basically what this thread is about.
Thanks for not hammering the Rega owners.
Perhaps there should be a turntable thread that addresses problems, design or otherwise, separate from this thread.
Just installed a short circuit regular quality copper jumper for against criticizing turntables , leading directly to ground/earth - about average sequoia diameter;
... hope it will be enough .
I try to avoid truly high octane turntable porn - a$$ociated cost$s have at least one zero too much on the right side ( best case $cenario ). To make clear what is meant ( HIGHLY above my budget ) : http://www.bornrich.com/79500-techdas-state-art-turntable-packs-latest-electronics-machining-technology.html There are far better descriptions and reviews available online, I simply wanted to show the price first. Here is the interview with the designer : http://www.hifiplus.com/articles/meet-your-maker-hideaki-niskikawa-of-techdas/?utm_campaign=Hi-Fi%2B+Weekly+Emails&utm_medium=email&utm_source=email-262 I can only say that he adressed most of the failings in other designs, and adressed them well - and compared to some other tables, it can even be viewed as "bargain" - that last has to be of course reagarded as relative . As said above, I tend to avoid this level because of cost - but this TT is no gimmick in sense of acres of acryl, chrome and tons of marble, it is solid engineering at its best.
Rega owners have been spared - because Rega concentrated on doing bare bone basics right; and that in most cases produces better result than a technically superiour machine that does not adress the basics correctly. Otherwise: Oracle, Revox, Technics, Thorens ( listed alphabethically, by no means the only culprits ) models would not get replaced with Rega.
I agree there should be a separate thread regarding turntable problems.
In future, I will continue contributing to picture thread - with micro porn. Styli, cantilevers, etc.
Vaguely reminds me of King Crimson's first LP - a very good picture.
I can't remember where I found it but I imagine it is from an early ad.
So much cool kit...
Rega is NOT the answer to all problems - they merely made their products to be basically sound while still within the capabilities of majority of users to set them up
reasonably well while giving decent sonics. This approach certainly can yield best performanve for the money when operated by"normal" people - but not the best overall. The mere existance of TTs similar to or like the TechDas is the proof there is beyond Rega thinking required for best possible result.
A 300 GBP for a decent condition SL 1200/1210 MKII is a bargain nowadays. It unfortunately IS possible for the Rega/Project to compete sonically at this price - as the SL 1200/1210 has so many gremlins that removing at least those most annoying will run you about twice the original 300 GBP paid. And a fully loaded 1200/1210 can well reach 5000 GBP mark - without arm and cartridge...
There is a line of TTs I have only seen mentioned online and not yet in flesh, which might well be a more reasonable way to go regarding a TT in 2014 than anything discussed above : http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue7/bellagio.htm
No association with either maker or distributor/retailer whatsoever, merely wanted to share something that might represent a viable alternative to the usual culprits -
and the prices are not out of line with the performance, particularly not this one : http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue5/bellavista.htm
No, you are so full of contradictions it is really a waste of time.
Having a slider does not mean the 1200 is not capable of great accuracy. I'd argue the accurate drive system allowed Technics to incorporate the slider.
1200 was designed as a consumer HI-Fi TT
Nostalgia is part of this hobby, especially vinyl. We are not all using vinyl for the highest possible fidelity.
When one see a picture of a TT that one has great fondness for, the reaction is "great TT".
Just like with an old car or restaurant or any number of things.
You really don't need to police and correct these emotions.
It just brings a lot of unpleasant and unnecessary negativity.
I own 3 turntables including the 1200. I bought the 1200 for $300 new from Amazon in 2009. I used it for a few months then got a Music Hall MMF 9.1 and a Pro-Ject 2 Xperience. However, I feel that the 1200 is a workhorse. I'd lug that TT around to know it will play accurately in almost any situation. The Pro-Ject and the MMF 9.1 I will never lug around, they're too unluggable. ;)
Besides, I'm usually putting around the house cooking, fiddling with odds & ends or just enjoying the view from my living room windows to really notice any changes in sound each turntable produces. I play vinyl about 10% of the time--90% are CDs or DVDs (HDTracks).
Have just spent weeks on deciding which turntable to get - finally the choice became clear, as did the fact that I couldn't afford it (over 10000 in whichever currency you're playing with). Settled for a shabby compromise. Photo to follow in due course. Life is 'ard.