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post #2026 of 3419
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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post

Since you didn't post a picture:

This is the only TT I could find that analogsurvivor hasn't "fully" tested.

At least I don't think so...

This picture is actually avatar by a member of another forum. It brings chuckle whenever I see it.

 

Testing this kind of TTs is due to lack of any standardized objective criteria relegated to pure subjective impressions and can be judged by an individual on case by case basis, not applicable to greater number of specimens - which is the general idea behind sharing on forums.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBW-51xzZNE

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post #2027 of 3419
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Originally Posted by analogsurviver View Post

This picture is actually avatar by a member of another forum. It brings chuckle whenever I see it.

 

Testing this kind of TTs is due to lack of any standardized objective criteria relegated to pure subjective impressions and can be judged by an individual on case by case basis, not applicable to greater number of specimens - which is the general idea behind sharing on forums.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBW-51xzZNE

I was sure you'd at least get in there and adjust the VTA!

post #2028 of 3419

I LOL'd

 

Azuimuth is off by a mile!

post #2029 of 3419
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Originally Posted by Eee Pee View Post

I LOL'd

 

Azuimuth is off by a mile!

Her azimuth is just fine.

post #2030 of 3419
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Originally Posted by bbophead View Post

Her azimuth is just fine.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Eee Pee View Post

I LOL'd

 

Azuimuth is off by a mile!

Exactly the kind of disagreement I had in mind. What is one person's delight can be another's

nightmare - and vice versa.

 

The goal of a turntable can be said to be as neutral reproduction of the signals recorded into a groove of the record as possible, hopefully giving sound indiscernible from the master (tape). No easy task, approached by few, among themselves often radically different designs. At least, the results have to and do tend to the common goal.

 

Compared to the simple single goal of turntables, the "other TTs"  are incomparably more complex and do not tend to strive to the common goal, the paths they go by are as diverse as the life itself. Unless we want to branch into psychology, sociology etc - time to stop this amusing distraction in this thread right here.

 

It can be pursued further within the confines of head-fi if desired, for starters http://www.head-fi.org/t/664938/worst-date-stories can be tried...

post #2031 of 3419

You seem really bored, or angry.  Hence your long winded posts.  I like your posts, but relax a little my friend.

 

Just saying...


Edited by Eee Pee - 7/21/13 at 11:49pm
post #2032 of 3419
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Originally Posted by Eee Pee View Post

You seem really bored, or angry.  Hence your long winded posts.  I like your posts, but relax a little my friend.

 

Just saying...

Neither - or both. Frustrated that things do not go as fast as I would have liked as regards turntables. There are lots of requirements to be met, all difficult to achieve individually, let alone in one single design. It is crazy how ever smaller and ever harder to put aside problems keep creeping up once you reach certain level. But getting close nonetheless.

 

It is more bearable if one is listening mainly or exclusively to vinyl. If you know the real thing, if you know how master recordings sound, if you record your own masters, then the deficiences of vinyl are just glaring at you. 

 

Your advice is appreciated and will be implemented ASAP.

post #2033 of 3419
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Originally Posted by analogsurviver View Post


If you know the real thing, if you know how master recordings sound, if you record your own masters, then the deficiences of vinyl are just glaring at you. 

 

That's why I listen to digital 95% of the time. It's not nearly as much fun to fetishize over though... smile.gif

post #2034 of 3419
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

 

That's why I listen to digital 95% of the time. It's not nearly as much fun to fetishize over though... smile.gif


I feel sorry for you guys.
I listen to vinyl 80% of the time.
You don't know what you're missing.

post #2035 of 3419
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Originally Posted by CrazyRay View Post


You don't know what you're missing.

Yes, I do.

Surface noise, ticks and pops, abysmal S/N ratio, etc... biggrin.gif
Edited by palmfish - 7/22/13 at 11:59am
post #2036 of 3419

Well, one can not turn blind eye to the advantages of good digital. There are areas analog will never be able to catch up. And vice versa, of course.

 

But, music did not start say roughly 30 years ago. A good/bad/whatever analog recording is best kept in analog, as long the copy itself is not too worn etc. For that there will always be requirement for decent analog playback. 

 

I would like to bring the most glaring defects of analog at least to acceptable level, where the error introduced is small enough to be possible to say it no longer does introduce meaningful sonic difference. 

 

I never meant to say that I do not enjoy listening to vinyl. In fact, I prefer it most of the time. Yet on those ocassions it does introduce more than just slight alteration of what was intended, it is hard to accept it if one is familiar with the real thing. And those players that do approach the ideal tend to be very costly.

 

Once upon a time, many full moons ago, Audio magazine from Germany issued the  most interesting test record - CD, LP and audio cassette with the same technical ( as far as applicable for different media ) and musical recordings. Original musical recordings were from digital masters.

 

To say that the results were surprising would be gross understatement. It was wake up call par excellence.

post #2037 of 3419

Listened to some good vinyl last night.  Finished Dead Can Dance live 3 LP recent release.  Very quiet surfaces, good sound (I saw them once about 10-12 years ago) but why they think it's cute to not put the contents on the label is a mystery to me.  In general the packaging is odd, maybe like them.  I'm sure it's a digital recording but had to be carefully mastered to analog which can make a differerence.

 

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Also listened to a half speed master of An American in Paris, Columbia/Sony recording of 1976.  Excellent.  I don't think digital sounds like this.  Too bad.  (pic is not of the half speed)

 

 

 

post #2038 of 3419
That DCD set is one of the best live recordings I've heard. Totally worth the small entry price.
post #2039 of 3419
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

That DCD set is one of the best live recordings I've heard. Totally worth the small entry price.

Correctamundo!  35 bucks for 3 quality vinyls.  Wish those kind of prices were more common for new LPs.

post #2040 of 3419

Their other one, Toward The Within is practically magic.  

 

Wind That Shakes The Barely gives me goosebumps sometimes.

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