Post A Photograph Of Your Turntable - Page 82

Have you guys seen this from VPI yet?

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Originally Posted by ProcessJunkie 

Sweet table and damping setup you got there, Paul. Can i ask you where do you get it? (the damping)

I made the isolation platform myself. I used two 1" sheets of MDF, with Sorbothane isolation pods between. You can get them here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1in-1-HEMISPHERE-Genuine-Sorbothane-4-x-25mm-ISOLATION-PODS-DOMES-FEET-HI-FI-/370583503248?pt=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item56487f8190

Sitting on top of a hifi rack (on a springy wooden floor), I have no audible problems with acoustic feedback or footfalls. My Thorens TD-145 would skip whenever anyone would walk near it, even with the platform.

VPI is promoting their DIY parts page on Facebook using that picture.

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Originally Posted by Eee Pee 

VPI is promoting their DIY parts page on Facebook using that picture.

It appears you're correct.  Man, if I could put something together that looked like that, I'd be sorely tempted to try to do it.  As it is, I'm all thumbs...

I'd looooove to get something like that in cherry to match my new Harbeths.

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Originally Posted by Paul Graham 

Thats Calipilot's Not mine dude :)

I havent even got my tonearm for my P3 yet lol...

Oh, damn. That's what you get by staying up so late. You stop making sense, lol

Here's a few not so good shots of my 1210, 1200's and one of my SL-BD22's from around 6 years ago.

Its all in storage at the moment but I still have it all.

Please excuse the ****ty paint and silly poster. 

I was younger and yeh whatever lol...

The hi-fi stack was when I had JUST started getting back into audio again -

Once your Planar 3 is up and running, you could do a comparison between it and the Tech 12. Would be great to hear an honest opinion from someone who owns both. 

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Originally Posted by calipilot227 

Once your Planar 3 is up and running, you could do a comparison between it and the Tech 12. Would be great to hear an honest opinion from someone who owns both. 

Yeh I can do that :)

Plus having doubles of nearly all my carts I can 

run the same on both turntables.

There's a Kenwood Trio L-07D on ebay UK currently. I am sorely tempted but I cant see the price staying anwyhere near what it is now!

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Originally Posted by calipilot227 

Once your Planar 3 is up and running, you could do a comparison between it and the Tech 12. Would be great to hear an honest opinion from someone who owns both. 

No idea regarding Regas, but for Technics 1200/1210 is next to impossible to say how it sounds. I have serviced a few lately and although they were all OK when they left, it is really alarming in what condition they came in. DJ abuse obviously can not be positive, but I found some VERY (ab)used DJ decks to be in almost perfect condition as far as tonearm bearings are concerned, whereas some home babied decks in pristine cosmetic shape had tons of free play in arm bearings and sounded really poor prior to bearing re-adjustment. 1200/1210 is an extremely advanced/complicated product where there are lots of adjustments that can go wrong - despite the fact that this was mass produced design of relatively low price, tolerances should have been better/tighter. Lots of criticism 1200/1210 gets from audiophiles for bad sound is in fact not criticism of the design itself, but more likely insufficient quality control, arm bearings in particular. Arm manufacturers tend to leave some free play in bearings - because PRECISE adjustment is time consuming and therefore expensive, and if one must choose between a sloppy but freely moving bearing and one that is too tight and tends to lock at one point or another the free moving is of course better - it kinda "works", too tight does not. None of the two conditions will have the correct sound quality.

Because 1200/1210, if it is assembled/adjusted as it should have been, is really not bad. Any belt driven deck can only dream about the speed stability of 1200. It can be modified into super audiophile deck, but the costs are anything but incosiderable - the mods can outstrip the value of the donor deck many times over. It is a sort of Sleeping Beauty in audiophile world. Unfortunately direct drive can not be inexpensive if it is to sound good.

So at lower price spectrum, a well designed belt drive will have the sonical edge - it is in the middle and high price sector where direct drive in my opinion did not yet say the last word.

One also has to be careful regarding cartridges to pair with DD - just at the innermost grooves, cart can pick up hum and other electrical noise from the DD motor - so if you ever get tempted enough to invest heavily in 1200/1210, chek it with the intended cartridge first - to prevent unnecessary disapointment later.

Valid points, although isn't some small degree of speed variation unavoidable with DC servo motors? (e.g. Constantly undershooting and overshooting the target speed, which manifests itself as a peak in the 3-4 kHz region?)

Anyway, before this becomes another belt drive vs. direct drive debate (), I was just curious regarding an objective P3/SL1200 comparison. Back to the pics!

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Originally Posted by calipilot227 

Once your Planar 3 is up and running, you could do a comparison between it and the Tech 12. Would be great to hear an honest opinion from someone who owns both. 

FWIW, I had a P3/24 and a Tech 1200 in the house at the same time. Using a Denon DL-110 on both, I preferred the P3/24 for its musicality and richness, though the 1200 was no slouch either.

Oddly, I sold the P3 and still have the 1200 in my living room speaker rig. It's indestructible nature makes it perfect for when drunk house guests decide they want to put on a record...