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i'd like to know what is the best and most trustable place to find and buy rare tubes on the net. especially nos tubes of the 6922 and e88cc family. I have bought a pair of 6922 nos tubes at tubedepot and they have shipped me early seventies us amperex 6922 pq orange label. and I had ordered white label us amperex 6922 pq from the sixties.

 

the orange label tubes are worth 50 bucks at the most, yet these clowns have charged me 400 bucks for a pair of white label pq amperex that I was supposed to have.

 

the orange label amperex sound miles ahead of the brand new genalex gold lions e88cc. and I am very happy about them, but I was expecting genuine white label 6922 amperex pq.

 

so if anyone can recommend me a trustable place, I would be very happy, cause I want to have a pair of those famous white label amperex pq made in usa.

 

even those with the weird shape.

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I've finally gotten my tester in and am going through and getting things tested to sell.   I've probably got 15-20 pairs of the Siemens ECC189s.   I've been listening to a pair of them for around a week now and they are outstanding tubes.  Some of the best I've heard in the Lyr.   They're pricier than the PCC189s, they cost me quite a bit more than the PCCs,,, but will still be pretty reasonable.

 

I've also got several varieties of PCC85s and PCC189s, including Haltron, Mazda, RFT, Toshiba and Taito, and they all sound pretty good from what I've heard so far.   Plus, around 40 pairs of 1958 RCA 6BZ7s that'll be going up for sale and a few others.   As with most 6BZ7s, they can be microphonic, but if you're not tapping on them and you've got tube dampers, they're fine.   They will also be pretty inexpensive.

 

   -Mike

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by ilikepooters View Post

More Siemens PCC189's have gone up on sale, i really can't reccomend these tubes highly enough, they absolutely trounce the stock tubes, absolute bargain.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-PCC189-7ES8-SIEMENS-NOS-NEW-OWN-BOX-/221207288653?pt=DE_TV_Video_Audio_Elektronenr%C3%B6hren_Valves&hash=item3380fb5b4d

 

Looks like they'll keep turning up every so often.

 

I'm intrigued to try the ECC189 variant now, only 6.3v heater instead of 7.6v so should be more akin to E88CC or CCa.

 

 

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Originally Posted by gerald410 View Post

Man I decided to roll these(they've been sitting me desk for some time) and guess what, They sound pretty darn good.

post #7473 of 8735
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Originally Posted by erikfreedom View Post

i'd like to know what is the best and most trustable place to find and buy rare tubes on the net. especially nos tubes of the 6922 and e88cc family. I have bought a pair of 6922 nos tubes at tubedepot and they have shipped me early seventies us amperex 6922 pq orange label. and I had ordered white label us amperex 6922 pq from the sixties.

 

the orange label tubes are worth 50 bucks at the most, yet these clowns have charged me 400 bucks for a pair of white label pq amperex that I was supposed to have.

 

the orange label amperex sound miles ahead of the brand new genalex gold lions e88cc. and I am very happy about them, but I was expecting genuine white label 6922 amperex pq.

 

so if anyone can recommend me a trustable place, I would be very happy, cause I want to have a pair of those famous white label amperex pq made in usa.

 

even those with the weird shape.

I have had great experiences with TubeMonger (http://www.tubemonger.com/) and MercedesMan on Ebay.  Folks have gotten tubes from Brent Jesse (http://www.audiotubes.com/) and Upscale Audio (http://www.upscaleaudio.com/) among others...

 

Cheers!beerchug.gif

-HK sends

post #7474 of 8735
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Originally Posted by Eternalmetal View Post

Hi everyone, I just started tube rolling with my Schiit Lyr and I have a question id like to have cleared up.  I got the 61NP and 6BZ7 tubes from Schiit and have been comparing between them.  I liked them both for different reasons (undecided), but I have a guitar amp that just so happens to have tubes that fit with the same pin pattern.  I plugged them into my Lyr and I got no sound at all.  They were Groove Tubes with the model number GT-12AX7-R.  I wasnt really expecting much, but considering they were the same size and pin configuration I was wondering why they werent compatible.  Can anyone explain why this is so for me? 

 

I have made some adaptors that will let you use tubes like the 12AX7's in the Lyr, have a look a few pages back or send me a PM.

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Originally Posted by HK_sends View Post

I have had great experiences with TubeMonger (http://www.tubemonger.com/) and MercedesMan on Ebay.  Folks have gotten tubes from Brent Jesse (http://www.audiotubes.com/) and Upscale Audio (http://www.upscaleaudio.com/) among others...

 

Cheers!beerchug.gif

-HK sends

thanks for the links. that place, audiotubes is incredible. I have never seen so many rare tubes in stock. they even have those rare pinched waist tubes that I want so bad. you have truly made my day my friend. what I like about audiotubes is that at least they know what they have and they tell if it is in stock. very nice place to buy tubes indeed. I think I will check to buy those piched waist tubes. he has 2 pairs at 600 bucks a pair. when I started rolling tubes with my lyr I went from the stock ge to a pair of electro harmonix 6922. the electro harmonix 6922 is a honest tube, but not very good. then I went for a pair of new genalex gold lions 6922. sound quality on the lyr was upgraded exponentialy with these tubes. then I received those orange label pq amperex 6922 and sound quality again was improved exponentialy over the gold lion tubes. so much that with these tubes, I think that my lyr sound better than my 3 channel beta 22. I never thought that tubes could improve sound so radically.

 

schiit lyr has enormous potential for great sound quality.

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Originally Posted by OldSkool View Post


Good choice.  I highly recommend this seller. smile.gif

Cheers! beerchug.gif


Did I read this out of context? Or, is HK a seller?
post #7477 of 8735
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Originally Posted by NightFlight View Post


Did I read this out of context? Or, is HK a seller?


I just bought a pair of '59 Bugle Boys from him...hence the "seller" reference.

 

HK does sell a few tubes from his collection every now and again, as we all have.

 

Also, he is a trusted member of this forum and others here have gotten great tubes from his collection.

 

 

Cheers! beerchug.gif

post #7478 of 8735

I have spoken to the guy at audiotubes by email and he will ship me a pair of pinched waist usa amperex white label pq gold pins from the fifties. sorry for my wallet.

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Originally Posted by Eternalmetal View Post

Hi everyone, I just started tube rolling with my Schiit Lyr and I have a question id like to have cleared up.  I got the 61NP and 6BZ7 tubes from Schiit and have been comparing between them.  I liked them both for different reasons (undecided), but I have a guitar amp that just so happens to have tubes that fit with the same pin pattern.  I plugged them into my Lyr and I got no sound at all.  They were Groove Tubes with the model number GT-12AX7-R.  I wasnt really expecting much, but considering they were the same size and pin configuration I was wondering why they werent compatible.  Can anyone explain why this is so for me? 


Hey when you put some 6DJ8 compatibles in there, please respond back to this thread with weather or not your Lyr still works. Seriously. :-)
post #7480 of 8735
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Originally Posted by NightFlight View Post


Hey when you put some 6DJ8 compatibles in there, please respond back to this thread with weather or not your Lyr still works. Seriously. :-)

This.

 

Sending 6.3v to common ground doesn't sound healthy.

post #7481 of 8735
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Originally Posted by Eternalmetal View Post

Hi everyone, I just started tube rolling with my Schiit Lyr and I have a question id like to have cleared up.  I got the 61NP and 6BZ7 tubes from Schiit and have been comparing between them.  I liked them both for different reasons (undecided), but I have a guitar amp that just so happens to have tubes that fit with the same pin pattern.  I plugged them into my Lyr and I got no sound at all.  They were Groove Tubes with the model number GT-12AX7-R.  I wasnt really expecting much, but considering they were the same size and pin configuration I was wondering why they werent compatible.  Can anyone explain why this is so for me? 


This is really a bad idea - different tubes have different wiring configuration - even if they fit in the same tube socket.  Be sure to stay with compatible tubes.  Or you risk blowing up your amp.


Edited by rb2013 - 5/28/13 at 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by erikfreedom View Post

i'd like to know what is the best and most trustable place to find and buy rare tubes on the net. especially nos tubes of the 6922 and e88cc family. I have bought a pair of 6922 nos tubes at tubedepot and they have shipped me early seventies us amperex 6922 pq orange label. and I had ordered white label us amperex 6922 pq from the sixties.

 

the orange label tubes are worth 50 bucks at the most, yet these clowns have charged me 400 bucks for a pair of white label pq amperex that I was supposed to have.

 

the orange label amperex sound miles ahead of the brand new genalex gold lions e88cc. and I am very happy about them, but I was expecting genuine white label 6922 amperex pq.

 

so if anyone can recommend me a trustable place, I would be very happy, cause I want to have a pair of those famous white label amperex pq made in usa.

 

even those with the weird shape.


I would also checkout www.tubeworld.com.  Brendan really knows his stuff - I have been buying from him for years.  He is very consistent (but expensive).  Great pictures to educate yourself on what the different tubes look like.

 

Of course there is www.Audiogon.com.  Just bought a really sweet pair of 1960s date code Holland Amperex Philips SQ E88CCs (Halo Getters) for $160 from sam1104.  These same tubes go for $360 on Brent Jesse's http://www.audiotubes.com/.  Maybe audiotubes are a little better matched - these were pretty close.  But not for $200 a pr more!

 

sam1104 has a really high feedback score (1745)

I have a tester, so will test them when they arrive, and check for microphonics.  I'll report my experience.  

 

So far the Lyr is breaking in really well, opening up, with the sound stage widing and deepening.  I'm liking it better then the Woo WA6-SE at this point.  It's so lively!  The Woo is a bit boring in comparison.  The Voshkod 6n23 Rockets are sounding wonderful in the Lyr.  Great detail and air (a lot like the S& H CCa grays I had), excellent dynamics - really quick, the Lyr is naturally musical with rich tonality (got to love those MOSFETs!) - the Rockets enhance that by adding more air and PRAT.  The Rockets remove all traces of glare and are sweetly musical - even on those grainy recordings.   These are the all time steal in the 6922 world!  Even Brent gives them a nice review!!

 


Edited by rb2013 - 5/28/13 at 8:05am
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Originally Posted by NightFlight View Post


Did I read this out of context? Or, is HK a seller?

More of a "Recycler"... wink_face.gif

 

Cheers!beerchug.gif

-HK sends

post #7484 of 8735
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Originally Posted by HK_sends View Post

More of a "Recycler"... wink_face.gif

 

Cheers!beerchug.gif

-HK sends


Ditto. Recycler here as well. beerchug.gif

 

I'm seldom a seller, except after those rare times that my wife peeks in my tube drawer. wink_face.gif

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Originally Posted by rb2013 View Post


I would also checkout [URL=http:]www.tubeworld.com. [/URL] Brendan really knows his stuff - I have been buying from him for years.  He is very consistent (but expensive).  Great pictures to educate yourself on what the different tubes look like.

Of course there is [URL=http:]www.Audiogon.com. [/URL] Just bought a really sweet pair of 1960s date code Holland Amperex Philips SQ E88CCs (Halo Getters) for $160 from sam1104.  These same tubes go for $360 on Brent Jesse's http://www.audiotubes.com/.  Maybe audiotubes are a little better matched - these were pretty close.  But not for $200 a pr more!

sam1104 has a really high feedback score (1745)
I have a tester, so will test them when they arrive, and check for microphonics.  I'll report my experience.  

So far the Lyr is breaking in really well, opening up, with the sound stage widing and deepening.  I'm liking it better then the Woo WA6-SE at this point.  It's so lively!  The Woo is a bit boring in comparison.  The Voshkod 6n23 Rockets are sounding wonderful in the Lyr.  Great detail and air (a lot like the S& H CCa grays I had), excellent dynamics - really quick, the Lyr is naturally musical with rich tonality (got to love those MOSFETs!) - the Rockets enhance that by adding more air and PRAT.  The Rockets remove all traces of glare and are sweetly musical - even on those grainy recordings.   These are the all time steal in the 6922 world!  Even Brent gives them a nice review!!

 




My limited exposure to the Russian tubes was a V shaped signature. Is this at all true of the 'Voshkod'?
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