Schiit Lyr - The tube rolling thread - Page 493

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Originally Posted by randytsuch 

He said:

 I used a custom teflon cap that I had made for my older tubeDAC, but you can use Mundorf, V-Caps or others. I recommend a teflon cap with tin film or copper film. Avoid plated Mylar.

 

I would just use a V Cap or Mundorf caps.  I have a pair of Ampohm caps that are no longer in use, which should work here, as long as they fit.  I plan to try them one of these days.

 

Randy

It would be great if one of the reputable Modders would pick the Lyr for a Mod package.  I can do the soldering but don't enjoy it!

Thanks for the info!

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Originally Posted by randytsuch 

Did you see this thead

http://www.head-fi.org/t/649183/some-schiit-lyr-mods#post_9119326

 

 

This is a very timely post for me as I'm building a 300B from plans.

It's bookmarked.

I'll leave the Lyr stock and use the 300B as a Franken-Amp.  I can't deviate from the BOM as I would introduce unknowns.

Should it actually work,  I might experiment with different caps and such.  Perhaps then the Lyr.

Sorry about making a non-tube rolling post.  I will refrain. 

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Originally Posted by rb2013 

Just read the whole post - I guess there are Teflon V-Caps that will fit.  Good News!  that's an easy one.  As are the Wima cap upgrades.  He leaves no stone unturned!  Love the idea of cutting the traces and using silver wire to the input RCAs.   Great advice on the fuses!  Well the Seimens CCa grays are so damn expensive and in my various amps and DACs that use the 6922, I had really good luck with the Voshkod 6n23 rockets (saucer getters) and sold all my CCas.    The rockets were so close in sound at a fraction of the cost, low noise, never had any microphonics, and damn near bulletproof. 

 

My Lyr is coming today.  After the customary 200 hr burn-in, I'll see how they sound there.

I'd be interested to know how the Voskhod 6N23P's sound in the Lyr, i have the Saratov variant and i'm not really that impressed, treble is not very detailed and rolled off, i'm hoping the Voskhods will fair better.

I had Voskhod 6N1P's and was impressed with them apart from the mids, they were a very good tube.

Amperex PQ 6DJ8's are going to take some knocking off their pedestal at the moment, my favourite tube so far with my HE5-LE's.

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Originally Posted by tuna47 

I have been using orange globe holland and bugle boy I find the orange globe makes the music sound sweeter really great

They do sound quite nice!

Cheers!

-HK sends

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Originally Posted by sceleratus 

This is a very timely post for me as I'm building a 300B from plans.

It's bookmarked.

 

I'll leave the Lyr stock and use the 300B as a Franken-Amp.  I can't deviate from the BOM as I would introduce unknowns.

Should it actually work,  I might experiment with different caps and such.  Perhaps then the Lyr.

 

Sorry about making a non-tube rolling post.  I will refrain. 

It's alright...we all go off on a tangent from time to time...

Cheers!

-HK sends

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Originally Posted by rb2013 

Having a calibration module is a great idea.  How much did it cost to build?  I had mine calibrated by a friend when I got it, but it's been a while.  The MC testers are more sensitive to calb, especially the older ones.  From what I heard the modern emission testers are less prone to drift.

It cost me about $8 in parts to built it. Here is the web page that explains it all. Most older tube testers need to be rebuilt in order to match factory calibration. The Sencore MU units like the 140 and 150 are the hardest to calibrate as many mutual dynamic tube testers. Sencore has one of highest sensitivity for leakage testing. BK testers are good also. My TC28 required me to break open the factory seals on the calibration pots inside along other things before testing will even work properly. I have three testers myself. I was lucky to find a TC28 without too much rust on it. 

http://tubesound.com/2007/10/24/sencore-mighty-mite/

http://www.tone-lizard.com/Sencore.htm

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Originally Posted by Glam Bash 

It's about time someone mentioned the Smokies. They are my personal favorite for well recorded vocals with the Lyr(HE-500 phones). 

When I tried the GE smokies from my collection of tubes it was love at first sight and performed much better than in the pervious pre-amp. I now have a half dozen pairs of the smokies just came in the mail!

My  PCC88 7DJ8's and Modi got here today. All I can really say is WOW. I am wondering if a Bifrost would even improve this set up. It already sounds damn near perfect to me.

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Originally Posted by Mando323 

My  PCC88 7DJ8's and Modi got here today. All I can really say is WOW. I am wondering if a Bifrost would even improve this set up. It already sounds damn near perfect to me.

There is the possibility of ordering the Bifrost to listen for yourself and then returning the one you liked least. As long as you meet the requirements for the 15 day satisfaction guarantee offered by Schiit. Keep in mind that you only have 15 days from getting your product to decide and that there is a restocking fee.

http://schiit.com/schiit-faq/warranty-returns/

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Originally Posted by john57 

It cost me about $8 in parts to built it. Here is the web page that explains it all. Most older tube testers need to be rebuilt in order to match factory calibration. The Sencore MU units like the 140 and 150 are the hardest to calibrate as many mutual dynamic tube testers. Sencore has one of highest sensitivity for leakage testing. BK testers are good also. My TC28 required me to break open the factory seals on the calibration pots inside along other things before testing will even work properly. I have three testers myself. I was lucky to find a TC28 without too much rust on it. 

 

http://tubesound.com/2007/10/24/sencore-mighty-mite/

 

http://www.tone-lizard.com/Sencore.htm

Thanks for the great info!

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Originally Posted by ilikepooters 

 

I'd be interested to know how the Voskhod 6N23P's sound in the Lyr, i have the Saratov variant and i'm not really that impressed, treble is not very detailed and rolled off, i'm hoping the Voskhods will fair better.

 

I had Voskhod 6N1P's and was impressed with them apart from the mids, they were a very good tube.

 

Amperex PQ 6DJ8's are going to take some knocking off their pedestal at the moment, my favorite tube so far with my HE5-LE's.

Tried them last night.  They sounded very good.  I have not tried my Amp Orange Globes or Bugle Boys yet - wish I still had those coup de gras Seimens CCa grays - sold them long ago.

The Voskhods Rockets 6N23Ps sounded wonderful as usual, much more detailed then the stock GEs.  They also removed the traces of harshness and glare from the GEs.  Richer tonality and increased detail.  With the Rockets had a few captivating moments with the Lyr, where the music just drew me away, but they where just moments.  My Woo will do this for whole albums -time will tell.

I have tried just about every Russian tube out there - did not particularly like the Voskhod 6N1Ps nor the Reflector OTK 6N1Ps - no match IMHO for the 6N23P Rockets.  Funny a few years ago the Voskhod Rockets where very hard to find - now they are plentiful on E-bay.  I'll have to get some of the earlier date codes

The Lyr is still breaking in.  So far a bit disappointing in comparison to the Woo WA6-SE.  But I have set the Lyr on my usual - 8 hr on - 2hrs off - burnin schedule.  I'll give it at least a hundred hours before making any absolute judgments.  The Woo is much more open, with a deeper and much wider sound stage.  Also the bass is much deeper and has a more natural tone.  I like the Lyr's transparency and quick dynamics.  The Lyr should open up with breakin,  My experience with MOSFETs they take longer to breakin then tube outputs.

Headphones: Senn HD800 (early serial number) Moon Black Dragon V2 cable.