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post #7081 of 8735
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Originally Posted by ilikepooters View Post

They are pin compatible but they are 9.5v heaters, they would be running waaay out of spec, 3.2v difference. Might sound good, might sound like junk. Anode voltage isn't too far out though.

It won't kill your Lyr in any case.
you might try the pcc189 an exact spec of the 6dj8 difference with 7v heater and some agc characteristics
post #7082 of 8735
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Originally Posted by transducereng View Post


you might try the pcc189 an exact spec of the 6dj8 difference with 7v heater and some agc characteristics

 

I've tried PCC189 and ECC189, both sounded pretty good, but they are variable gain so not to everyones taste.

post #7083 of 8735
Hello to all I'm French and unfortunately I speak not English uses a bing translator translator, after having read 476 pages this was long! on the lyr shiit that a device well built in aluminium brushed, jaime much the look there are in france at audiophyle I saw that certain person are a little while is inporte what regards tubes! first before any change of tubes need to know voltages to the anodes, heating, bias, to 0.1 volt meadows -1 know the voltages of the tubes are it regulate? -2 the device is designed for 6922 tubes or E88CC therefore it fau know must be the voltage at the anode -3 ECC88 tubes are provided work for with 130 volts Max E88CC has + 130 volts can be mounted a replacement of the Ecc88 E88CC tube but not the contrary! -E80CC = 12au7, the E85cc = EL84, 6CG7A = 6SN7GT ?, c is tubes not nothing to do it will work but at the end of 6 months - 1 year your tube regulated heating are grilled ! Same for the 6n1p Russian ev n is not a tube compatible with the E88cc ECC88 unlike says on ebay! 88 the PCC88 prior to 1970 was 7 volts after 1970 7.6 volts, this tube with heating a 6.3 volt performance is 50% to 70% it work perfectly! the tube equivalent are 7308, 6922, ecc88, E88CC, 6bq7a, pcc88 heating has 7 v minimum, Russian 6n23ev, Russian 6np3, the RTC or Mullard identical E188cc, E288cc 2 guys that if know tube Ms-scary, and HK - send the voltage is hyper-important !
post #7084 of 8735

Anyone know if Lyr uses both triodes of each tube? I'm thinking of breaking out the soldering iron again and making Lyr use only 1 tube, because buying single tubes is cheap.

 

I'm not thinking of altering the Lyr in any way, more thinking of playing about with those cheap, disposable chinese socket savers again.

 

Anyone in the know?

post #7085 of 8735
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Originally Posted by ilikepooters View Post

Anyone know if Lyr uses both triodes of each tube? I'm thinking of breaking out the soldering iron again and making Lyr use only 1 tube, because buying single tubes is cheap.

 

I'm not thinking of altering the Lyr in any way, more thinking of playing about with those cheap, disposable chinese socket savers again.

 

Anyone in the know?

Both triodes

post #7086 of 8735
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Originally Posted by ilikepooters View Post

More tubes that work:

 

6N23P

7DJ8/PCC88

6ES8/ECC189

7ES8/PCC189

6BQ7A

ECC85/6AQ8 (Similar to 6N1P)

E80CC (Draws ALOT of heater current, use at own risk)

CCa

7308

6CG7/6FQ7/6GU7

 

Probably a lot more but i haven't looked into all of them yet.

 

Hi

I was looking at this list, and noticed the E80CC reference.

 

Since you need a special adapter to use an E80CC, I think it is confusing to have it on this list.

 

Randy

post #7087 of 8735
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Originally Posted by randytsuch View Post

 

Hi

I was looking at this list, and noticed the E80CC reference.

 

Since you need a special adapter to use an E80CC, I think it is confusing to have it on this list.

 

Randy

 

Yes it was a mistake, can you link me to the post number?

post #7088 of 8735
High

The E80cc is absolutely not compatible with E88cc or ecc88

the 6np3 no longer! Sorry I meant the 6n23p!

the Chinese 6n1 and 6n1 Russian ev not nothing have, Chinese is compatible, not Russian


whatever ' a bit to watch the voltage to the tubes with a multimeter!wink.gif
post #7089 of 8735
Just received orange globes really open up soundstage
post #7090 of 8735

the ecc85 is no compatible whit le 6dj8 ou ecc88

 

ECC85 = 12at7

post #7091 of 8735
post #7092 of 8735
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Originally Posted by fatube View Post

the ecc85 is no compatible whit le 6dj8 ou ecc88

 

ECC85 = 12at7

 

ECC85 is a 6.3v tube. and 12AT7 is a 12.6v / 6.3v tube (series/parallel) with a completely different pin-out.

 

They are similar, but not the same.

 

ECC85 sounds great in Lyr.

post #7093 of 8735
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Originally Posted by fatube View Post

Hello to all I'm French and unfortunately I speak not English uses a bing translator translator, after having read 476 pages this was long! on the lyr shiit that a device well built in aluminium brushed, jaime much the look there are in france at audiophyle I saw that certain person are a little while is inporte what regards tubes! first before any change of tubes need to know voltages to the anodes, heating, bias, to 0.1 volt meadows -1 know the voltages of the tubes are it regulate? -2 the device is designed for 6922 tubes or E88CC therefore it fau know must be the voltage at the anode -3 ECC88 tubes are provided work for with 130 volts Max E88CC has + 130 volts can be mounted a replacement of the Ecc88 E88CC tube but not the contrary! -E80CC = 12au7, the E85cc = EL84, 6CG7A = 6SN7GT ?, c is tubes not nothing to do it will work but at the end of 6 months - 1 year your tube regulated heating are grilled ! Same for the 6n1p Russian ev n is not a tube compatible with the E88cc ECC88 unlike says on ebay! 88 the PCC88 prior to 1970 was 7 volts after 1970 7.6 volts, this tube with heating a 6.3 volt performance is 50% to 70% it work perfectly! the tube equivalent are 7308, 6922, ecc88, E88CC, 6bq7a, pcc88 heating has 7 v minimum, Russian 6n23ev, Russian 6np3, the RTC or Mullard identical E188cc, E288cc 2 guys that if know tube Ms-scary, and HK - send the voltage is hyper-important !

 

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Originally Posted by fatube View Post

High

The E80cc is absolutely not compatible with E88cc or ecc88

the 6np3 no longer! Sorry I meant the 6n23p!

the Chinese 6n1 and 6n1 Russian ev not nothing have, Chinese is compatible, not Russian


whatever ' a bit to watch the voltage to the tubes with a multimeter!wink.gif

 

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Originally Posted by fatube View Post

the ecc85 is no compatible whit le 6dj8 ou ecc88

 

ECC85 = 12at7

Hi Fatube!

 

Welcome to Head-Fi!  Sorry about your wallet...wink_face.gif

 

I'm not an expert on tube compatibility but I do believe the ECC85 is related to the 6AQ8 (and 6N1P) which is a six volt tube unlike the 12AT7 which is equivalent to the ECC81 tube.  Most of the tubes I have tried have either been through trial and error, or recommendations by other Lyr owners.  I do know that "ilikepooters" re-wired some socket savers in order to allow the Lyr to run his E80CC but that's the most radical modification I have seen so far to for tubes (although I think it is a cool idea).

 

The great thing about the Lyr is it appears to be very forgiving for those that wish to push the boundaries of tube rolling.  But I have only been daring enough to try the ECC85 tubes or 7 volt tubes like the PCC88.  That's the most risk I am willing to take with my Lyr.biggrin.gif

 

I look forward to reading more of your posts.

 

Cheers!beerchug.gif

-HK sends

post #7094 of 8735
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Great link, thanks Randy!

 

Cheers!beerchug.gif

-HK sends

post #7095 of 8735

I'm thinking about making some of those adaptors to sell, just bought 20 of the cheap socket savers from ebay for £16.38, so that's about 82p each, 4 are needed in total for a pair of adaptors, so £3.28 for a set.

 

So i could ship them out for $5 + postage, and it will let people use other tubes like E80CC, ECC81/E81CC/ECC801S/12**7 etc.

 

I'll make a few sets for now and see how it goes. Need the socket savers to turn up first of course popcorn.gif

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