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Originally Posted by billerb1 View Post

A shout-out to HK_sends...the tube doctor with a heart of gold.

Whoa, hey, wait a minute...!  I don't want you ruining my rep...very_evil_smiley.gif

 

Cheers!beerchug.gif

-HK sends

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Hello, a little message information for all my people who buy my tubes e188cc rtc.
Packages have had success with ship and you will have them in the next week.
I wish you good use.
cordially

post #6933 of 8735
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Originally Posted by jellofund View Post

 

They are also a lot less noisy than the stock tubes when I'm listening to my D2000s and the bass on those phones, which has a tendency to get flabby, is noticeably tighter and better defined. The HD600s are on another level and seem very well matched with these tubes.

 

If they improve some more then I'll be very pleased indeed, but if not I still think they sound killer for 15 bucks. The incoming Bugle Boys will have a hard act to follow I reckon biggrin.gif

 

Not really. The BB's will leave you surprised. Their balance I find to be quite good. They seem to get rid of a lot of that tube "cotton in your ears" veil. The OGs have a lot of that too. The BB's less so with a good sound. I found them really hard to beat... until the S&H Cca's. wink_face.gif

post #6934 of 8735
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Originally Posted by gmahler2u View Post

how much did you pay for your CCa?

 

Too much apparently. ~$250 for the pair. But its Mr. Scary that is sitting on 40 pairs. That's $10k. I don't think I would invest that much unless I was looking to make money, since I'm not even certain about the tube thing. I may be turning to the dark side in the future. I have a feeling transistors can be done right.

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Originally Posted by tjl5709 View Post

 

And how do they make your 800's sound?

 

Well, the 800's are faithful to what you put into them. But I believe they help to leverage their ability with this rig.

 

The sound stage is brilliant. Wide without being diffuse. The bottom end is present and tight. The mids are lively and accurate. The highs are airy without being dry. Nothing stands out as incorrect. Bad recordings sound terrible, good ones sound great! Their still breaking in, but entirely listenable. At first they didn't sound bad - just a bit fake. Now their just becoming more natural as time progresses. Nay sayer's will say... its your brain adjusting. Could be.  Right now just trying out 24/96 Dark side of the moon. I've heard the Album a million times.  I normally can't stomach it anymore, but its a good reference. It has to be pretty special for me to enjoy it anymore. 

 

Previous postings for this tube have gone on about its 'Holographic' nature. I think its just accurate. The bloomy boom tube sound isn't as pronounced, so it allows the natural staging to just happen. That's my two cents. If your looking for a big impactful bottom end, this is not the tube your looking for. The BBs are better in that regard. 

 

The S&H Cca's have nothing is emphasized. Eg the bass guitar in the opening segment of DSM 'Time' on some systems can flap your pant legs. While (really) fun, I think those systems are a bit unbalanced. This tube doesn't put the 800s down there. So its not one for the bass heads.

 

Otherwise, nothing catches my attention as being wrong. That's big for me because I'm overly critical. It gets in the way of my enjoyment.

 

I'm not getting the sound stage you would get from a fantastic set of speakers. I hear 800 users even going so far as giving up their speaker rig. Bah. That's total crap. Their just headphones. Nice, but ultimately can't touch a properly matched room. Almost all recordings are made for a frontal presentation... anyhow. I digress.

 

But I'm still scaling them. Haven't peaked yet. :)

post #6936 of 8735
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Originally Posted by RADIO-COLLEC View Post

Hello, a little message information for all my people who buy my tubes e188cc rtc.
Packages have had success with ship and you will have them in the next week.
I wish you good use.
cordially

 

 

Thanks!  beerchug.gif

post #6937 of 8735
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Originally Posted by NightFlight View Post

 

Too much apparently. ~$250 for the pair. But its Mr. Scary that is sitting on 40 pairs. That's $10k. I don't think I would invest that much unless I was looking to make money, since I'm not even certain about the tube thing. I may be turning to the dark side in the future. I have a feeling transistors can be done right.

I have no doubt that transistors can sound really good!
 

I think that MrScary has made a fairly good investment.  Those tubes are only going to grow more rare, and their p;rice will no doubt go up.


Edited by nelamvr6 - 4/30/13 at 9:56am
post #6938 of 8735
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Originally Posted by NightFlight View Post

 

Too much apparently. ~$250 for the pair. But its Mr. Scary that is sitting on 40 pairs. That's $10k. I don't think I would invest that much unless I was looking to make money, since I'm not even certain about the tube thing. I may be turning to the dark side in the future. I have a feeling transistors can be done right.


WOW!  I paid my Siemens ecc188 for $300.  you paid much less.  good deal!  wink_face.gif

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Originally Posted by sceleratus View Post

Real.

+1


If I have it right, the crystalline structure of all the conductors in the signal and power path adjust over time to the flow of electrons. Like rocks giving way to water in a stream. The characteristics change with time. Same with all electronic components, as they are made up of electron carrying materials. This is 'burn-in'.

One would believe that due to their nature, tubes would be less susceptible to this effect, but in truth it would prove they are simply more sensitive to their physical electron carrying components going through changes and amplify that.

But... I could just be blowing smoke.
post #6940 of 8735
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Originally Posted by nelamvr6 View Post

I have no doubt that transistors can sound really good!

 
I think that MrScary has made a fairly good investment.  Those tubes are only going to grow more rare, and their p;rice will no doubt go up.

He's a hoarder. I'll have no sympaty if he trips and falls on his box of tubes.
post #6941 of 8735

Jellofund,

 

I'm glad I read this... I picked up a couple of pairs of those Brimars as well.    I rolled the first pair in and was completely unimpressed, enough so where I took them out after less than an hour and figured I'd sell or give them away as a bust.    After reading your post this morning I rolled them back in and have been letting them play.   Wow, what a difference.    They've opened right up, vocals are much better, imaging is outstanding both left/right and front/back.   Bass is decent, though not quite as deep as I'd like.   Mids and highs are smoothing out - and the highs aren't too overpowering, which I like.  Still a bit of congestion when things get complex, but for a $15 pair of tubes I am very impressed.

 

Currently listening to them through a pair of M-Audio CX-5 powered monitors with my Lyr as a preamp.   

 

Thanks,

  -Mike

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by jellofund View Post

 

 

 

(very early impressions so take with a large pinch of salt!)

 

I just left these running some white / pink noise and frequency sweeps for a few hours and then spent the last hour or so listening to a wide selection of tracks (acoustic, rock, classical, r&b etc.).

 

I'm not sure whether they should be showing much of an improvement so soon but after 6 hours or so burn in to my ears these tubes sound nothing like they did just a few hours ago. Much more open sounding now, mids are present and correct (vocals have improved immensely), great bass, pleasant treble (I don't like too much). Whilst I hoped they'd show some improvement I really didn't expect anything so marked at this point.

 

They are also a lot less noisy than the stock tubes when I'm listening to my D2000s and the bass on those phones, which has a tendency to get flabby, is noticeably tighter and better defined. The HD600s are on another level and seem very well matched with these tubes.

 

If they improve some more then I'll be very pleased indeed, but if not I still think they sound killer for 15 bucks. The incoming Bugle Boys will have a hard act to follow I reckon biggrin.gif

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I can't remember who recommended it, it was someone in this thread, but it was pink noise for burn in.  I tried it, and it really works well!  

 

Just let it play overnight, all day while you're at work, after 24 hours you could very well find your tube's sq has changed.

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post #6944 of 8735
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Originally Posted by nelamvr6 View Post

I can't remember who recommended it, it was someone in this thread, but it was pink noise for burn in.  I tried it, and it really works well!  

Just let it play overnight, all day while you're at work, after 24 hours you could very well find your tube's sq has changed.


pink noise reco recordings are hard to find online. I had to resort to piracy. gasp.
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Originally Posted by NightFlight View Post


pink noise reco recordings are hard to find online. I had to resort to piracy. gasp.

I just downloaded the 15 minute pink noise mp3 from here:  http://www.audiocheck.net/testtones_pinknoise.php  and burned it to a CD.  When I want to burn something in, I just put my CD player on repeat.  Works a treat! 

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