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post #6766 of 8735

Well they arrived.

Both sets of RTC's

1965 and 1967

 

Now I can compare them and hope the 65's are as good as I remember.

The 67's from This Listing are appear flawless. Let's hope they have the voice to match.

The seller has more.

I will let you know what I think.

 

 

post #6767 of 8735
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Originally Posted by jellofund View Post

 

Here you go:

 

http://www.hotroxuk.com/tube-glove.html

 

I haven't used them before but comms have been good and I received a shipping notification within an hour of ordering to say my item would be dispatched today. You can use Paypal and don't need to create an account to checkout (they ask for a phone no. but I just stuck in 'ex-directory').

 

 

 

Just a quick update to say that I received my Tube Glove today < 24 hrs after ordering so can give this seller a big thumbs up.

 

The first thing that struck me about the Tube Glove was just how cheap and 'squishy' looking it was (must've cost pennies / cents to make)  which gave me some doubts about just how effective it would be and wondering if it was worth the cash.

 

Conversely in practice though I have to say that it is fantastic and worth every penny I paid biggrin.gif

 

Just some quick impression which may be of help to anyone considering one:

 

Considering just how difficult and time consuming I was finding it to remove tubes the difference is like night and day. I can now remove my tubes very quickly and with minimal fuss. Simply a case of sliding the smaller end of the glove over the top of the tube and pushing down so it covers most of the  glass (there is plenty of clearance to get it right inside the Lyr), then whilst holding the glove firmly between thumb & forefinger towards the top of the tube start to pull the tube upwards whilst also lightly wiggling the tube from left to right (thanks again for the tip Flisker!) until you feel the tube start to loosen from the socket, and then pull it straight up and out. No bent pins, rude words or brute force needed.

 

Schiit should really do a deal with these guys and either bundle one or sell them as an optional accessory. They could brand it GTSO (get the schiit out) beyersmile.png

 

The only proviso I would add is that I'm not sure how long this would last if you were doing a lot of tube rolling as the material it is made of (some kind of rubber I think) feels quite supple so may (but may not) be prone to stretching.


Edited by jellofund - 4/26/13 at 3:30am
post #6768 of 8735
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Originally Posted by jellofund View Post

 


Schiit should really do a deal with these guys and either bundle one or sell them as an optional accessory. They could brand it GTSO (get the schiit out) beyersmile.png

 

You made me grin, notwithstanding with a oozy feeling.

post #6769 of 8735

I have dealt with Hot Rox in the past and they were a good organisation, Nottingham based.

 

I am a long term tube roller who is looking at the Lyr as a possible purchase. I see lots of 'unusual' variants being tested here, and I am a bit surprized. Is this because the Lyr really responds to them or is this because of a shortage of quality ECC88? My advise previously for rollers on a budget has always been look ECC88 / 6DJ8s from the likes of Amperex  and Mullard (British / Holland manufacture).They were always a fraction of the cost of the E88CC / 6922 etc but still had great potential performance. The like of the 6BQ7 / 6ES8 were always the high distortion tubes! Is this a bit different with the Lyr?
 

post #6770 of 8735
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Originally Posted by Nic Rhodes View Post

I have dealt with Hot Rox in the past and they were a good organisation, Nottingham based.

 

I am a long term tube roller who is looking at the Lyr as a possible purchase. I see lots of 'unusual' variants being tested here, and I am a bit surprized. Is this because the Lyr really responds to them or is this because of a shortage of quality ECC88? My advise previously for rollers on a budget has always been look ECC88 / 6DJ8s from the likes of Amperex  and Mullard (British / Holland manufacture).They were always a fraction of the cost of the E88CC / 6922 etc but still had great potential performance. The like of the 6BQ7 / 6ES8 were always the high distortion tubes! Is this a bit different with the Lyr?
 

 

I think most of it is being addicted to tube rolling, and the rest of it is being on a tight budget.

 

I don't really want to be spending more than £40 on a pair of tubes, and things like amperex or mullard ECC88 can be more than this, so running other cheap tubes out of spec is a way around this.

 

ECC85 sounds great, even though specs are different, and siemens and telefunken variants can be had for peanuts.

 

Sounding 'great' is subjective though, depends what each person likes.

post #6771 of 8735
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Originally Posted by sceleratus View Post

Well they arrived.

Both sets of RTC's

1965 and 1967

 

Now I can compare them and hope the 65's are as good as I remember.

The 67's from This Listing are appear flawless. Let's hope they have the voice to match.

The seller has more.

I will let you know what I think.

 

 

 

Ordered the same ones (not here yet). Can't wait to hear your impressions!

post #6772 of 8735
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Originally Posted by jellofund View Post

 

Just a quick update to say that I received my Tube Glove today < 24 hrs after ordering so can give this seller a big thumbs up.

 

 

+1. The EH tube gloves don't look like much, but they work great.

post #6773 of 8735
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Originally Posted by nelamvr6 View Post

Rolling in the Small Men!
 

Amperex 6DJ8 ECC88 Bugle Boy Small Man Large O Getters, '60's vintage:

 

Got a pair, when I got my globes. I'm gonna stick with the globes for a minute:) Please post any impressions thanks.

post #6774 of 8735
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Originally Posted by R Scott Ireland View Post

 

Ordered the same ones (not here yet). Can't wait to hear your impressions!

 

I listened to my 65's for an hour then the new 67's for an hour. I have LCD2's.

Same music selections.

They are close to the 65's but missing the last 5% of "finish" that make the 65's exceptional.

I suspect they will get there when broken in.

 

These valves are mondo-galactic.  Very musical with a large voice.

I find my head floating inside the track with instruments and vocals coming from every direction.

They are incredible with vocals, acoustics, and percussion.  By this I mean classical violin,

acoustic guitar, blues, and honest 4-5 piece Gibson / Fender rock and roll. 

 

I have or have had Orange Globes (67/69) Bugle Boys (65) USN-CEP (65) 6922 D Getter (60) Valvo (65) GE Clear Tops, Lorenz PCC88.

IMO none of them come close to these RTC's.  That's my music preferences, LCD2's, and my ears.  I will probably stop buying because

I like these so much and I can't imagine anything sounding better.  Doing the math, these are rated for 10,000 hours.  If I listen every day, for 3 hours, that's 10 years.

I have 2 sets.  I think they are a deal at $150.  I've paid twice that for a set of valves.

 

Tracks.  Bob Marley Redemption, Stones Love in Vain, Country Honk, Round and Around. Buddy Guy & Jr Wells That's Alright.

Dead Ripple, Dylan Highway 61 Revisited. Doors L.A. Woman. Ravi Shankar Tradional Gat II

 

I hope you enjoy them.

 

 


Edited by sceleratus - 4/26/13 at 10:07am
post #6775 of 8735
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Originally Posted by gmahler2u View Post

I think 3 o'clock listening is quite loud listening volume for my taste.

I go with 9 o'clock or 10.

 

different phone with different volume level?

 

The HD800s with PCC189s and a quiet recording make it to about 1-2PM before the pain sets in. Otherwise with a proper tube and proper recording levels normal is 9-11AM with the 800s, depending on mood. 12PM would be... a bit nuts... and destructive on hearing.

post #6776 of 8735

S&H Early E288CCs

 

Excellent detail and imaging. Sweet highs. Missing all the fun bottom end. The tubes require a little more gain, but otherwise good. The operating points are just not there. So E288CC's... not the right tube for the Lyr. They work. Good if you can find them for free.
 

post #6777 of 8735
Quote:
Originally Posted by sceleratus View Post

 

I listened to my 65's for an hour then the new 67's for an hour. I have LCD2's.

Same music selections.

They are close to the 65's but missing the last 5% of "finish" that make the 65's exceptional.

I suspect they will get there when broken in.

 

These valves are mondo-galactic.  Very musical with a large voice.

I find my head floating inside the track with instruments and vocals coming from every direction.

They are incredible with vocals, acoustics, and percussion.  By this I mean classical violin,

acoustic guitar, blues, and honest 4-5 piece Gibson / Fender rock and roll. 

 

I have or have had Orange Globes (67/69) Bugle Boys (65) USN-CEP (65) 6922 D Getter (60) Valvo (65) GE Clear Tops, Lorenz PCC88.

IMO none of them come close to these RTC's.  That's my music preferences, LCD2's, and my ears.  I will probably stop buying because

I like these so much and I can't imagine anything sounding better.  Doing the math, these are rated for 10,000 hours.  If I listen every day, for 3 hours, that's 10 years.

I have 2 sets.  I think they are a deal at $150.  I've paid twice that for a set of valves.

 

Tracks.  Bob Marley Redemption, Stones Love in Vain, Country Honk, Round and Around. Buddy Guy & Jr Wells That's Alright.

Dead Ripple, Dylan Highway 61 Revisited. Doors L.A. Woman. Ravi Shankar Tradional Gat II

 

I hope you enjoy them.

 

Wow, great review, thanks!

 

Let's just say I'm glad I ordered 2 sets of these.  They sound like show-stoppers.

post #6778 of 8735
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Originally Posted by Sanlitun View Post

 

What do you think you will replace it with?

 

A really old Adcom GDA-700. It has been modified out the Wazoo. However, I can't post or discuss the modifications due to non-disclosure. I'm really sorry about that, but there's some really basic game changing tech in there.  Also, these were being used between DAC and Lyr... as well as throughout the source system: http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/teoaudio2/liquid.html

 

Anyhow, the modded Adcom ate my Bifrost for breakfast, slapped me in the face a few times and the Lyr lit up like never before. I honestly didn't think CDs were capable of the detail I heard. The optical out on my MBP was ruled out as CRAP as well, but I already had a hunch this was true.

 

I've been chastised a few times in the HD800 forum for running the Lyr with the 800s. Then I was told the Bifrost will outlast my Lyr by a few upgrades. Well my friends... it just ain't so. I could clearly distinguish the layers between sound signature and detail. When I heard that much detail fight its way though the tube - I realized the signature you pick while important - is secondary. +1 again for the Lyr. It's an awesome amp.

 

stock: http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/648942433-adcom_gda_700_dac

 

It was 30 second listen. Took my headphones and said. "I need a new DAC". I was politely reminded the Bifrost is an excellent DAC and performs amazingly well. But what I just heard cannot currently be bought at any price. 

 

... a few days of relative silence pass ...

 

So a few days later I tried the Bifrost again. I got my replacement USB card in (the original USB card started freaking out. I also noticed the new card has a change on it. hmmm).  It sounds better than ever before. My ear has pretty much forgotten everything, and the Bifrost is really groovy again. Go figure. That's audio for ya.


Edited by NightFlight - 4/26/13 at 12:30pm
post #6779 of 8735

 

Finally.
 

post #6780 of 8735

Well, I got a set of Tungsram ECC85s today and color me impressed!  I tried Russian 6N1Ps before and wasn't happy with the sound, but these sound pretty awesome!

 

Cheers!beerchug.gif

-HK sends

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