[velvetx]

So many tubes. I am kind of curious as to those of you who tons of tubes.

How do you go about listening to each set?
Do you listen to your best set and just let the others sit?
What is your usual method for breaking in tubes?

 

[sceleratus]

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Do you like amperex tubes?

I know I'll be corrected on this... I am a bit confused.
 
But Amperex = Philips, but they built valves for Mullard and visa versa.
Amprex OG's were generally Holland.  The white label and 6922's New York.
 
All a bit jumbled.  Just look at the Philips Valve Codes in my prior post.
Now, I don't know if they compiled the list and everybody agreed on the Mfg code
It appears so because Siemens and Halske, Valo, and Telefunken are on the list.
 
Clearly, as an example, Philips made "French" RTC valves in Holland. 
 
To your point:
I like Amprex valves.  I paid more for the "6922 Class" valves and I believe they sound better.
I think I paid $240 for the 1960's
 
By far, by a mile, my "French" RTC's E188CC's sound... just magical.  Can't remember.  1965 I think.
They have the Big "O" getter.  I can't say enough about them.  They were made in a Philips / Amperex plant in Heerlen Holland.
I have not listened to the 3 mica stuff and above, but I can't imagine anything sounding better than these.
RTC Purchase
You must find some.  I paid $140 but most of them are almost $300.
I do not want to recommend the RTC / Mullards, until I hear them.
They are not the same as the RTC's I own now.
 
Amperex....  Early 60's  Orange Globes <$  Bugle Boys $ < 6922.
I don't have any stamped "PQ" or "SQ"  I believe those sound amazing and I believe they conform to the E188CC spec.
 
I know you have a pretty good collection.... For those starting out... IMO... pay $70 and get some mid 60's matched Orange Globes.
Those are a great value.  mercedesman usually has them.  I have 69 dimple OG's, I gave away 67' O getters to a friend.  I had Bugle Boys and found them harsh.
IMO.  It is worth paying more for "O" getter Orange Globes.  They are an excellent place to start.... or stay.  A nice elevator ride up from stock.

 

[sceleratus]

noobs... go back through the thread and see what the old guys buy and how they buy them.
There is a wealth of experience in this thread.  Follow their lead and you'll be pleased.

 

[gerald410]

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noobs... go back through the thread and see what the old guys buy and how they buy them.
There is a wealth of experience in this thread.  Follow their lead and you'll be pleased.

I hear what your saying but reading 425 pages is a bit of a tough read lol

 

[Joong]

Velvetx,
Just random process, from collecting random information here and there to purchasing from various sellers.
Following my desire which is operating in random manner.
Life and creativity is also random process.

 
If pursuing this subtlety driven perfectionism is based on well defined process, then it will not be fun

.
 
We actually drive the tube market by generating random reviews based on large sample space of decidability.

 

[BobJS]

(cross posted through several threads
 
 

 
Quoting from another thread I'm following:
 
You want scary binaural? Try a virtual haircut. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUDTlvagjJA

 
Wow...... never tried that before.  I listened through the Q701, the T1, and HE-500.  Finally, a good way to easily rank soundstage :
 
1. HE-500
2. Q701
3. T1
 
The HE-500s REALLY sounded like the sound was all around the room, way outside of my head.  Was playing from the Lyr with the Amperex A-Frame 6DJ8/ECC88 tubes known for great sound and soundstage

 

[gerald410]

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(cross posted through several threads
 
 
 
Wow...... never tried that before.  I listened through the Q701, the T1, and HE-500.  Finally, a good way to easily rank soundstage :
 
1. HE-500
2. Q701
3. T1
 
The HE-500s REALLY sounded like the sound was all around the room, way outside of my head.  Was playing from the Lyr with the Amperex A-Frame 6DJ8/ECC88 tubes known for great sound and soundstage

I find the A frames lacking in bass still breaking in though. Concur on the sound stage!

 

[toschek]

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I hear what your saying but reading 425 pages is a bit of a tough read lol

 
It's a lot more fun to read than War and Peace.  

 

[Sanlitun]

Lyr newbie here, I've had mine all of 4 hours now. I bought it to replace my Asgard 2 and the results have been everything I had hoped for.
 
So a simple question out of curiosity: I ordered mine with the JJ E88CC's and so far so great. But how would you characterize the stock GE tubes in comparison?
 
I'm sure someone has covered this before, but 425 pages....
 
Thanks!

 

[Radioking59]

Amperex....  Early 60's  Orange Globes <$  Bugle Boys $ < 6922.
I don't have any stamped "PQ" or "SQ"  I believe those sound amazing and I believe they conform to the E188CC spec.

I know you have a pretty good collection.... For those starting out... IMO... pay $70 and get some mid 60's matched Orange Globes.
Those are a great value.  mercedesman usually has them.  I have 69 dimple OG's, I gave away 67' O getters to a friend.  I had Bugle Boys and found them harsh.
IMO.  It is worth paying more for "O" getter Orange Globes.  They are an excellent place to start.... or stay.  A nice elevator ride up from stock.

This was my plan. Get some Orange Globes as my first foray into rolling. Are you saying you prefer OGs to Bugle Boys? I'm not sure if you meant to use a less sign or not. It seems that Bugle Boys and OGs are close in price unless you get the BB D getter version. Mercedesman has some OG O getters right now for $80. I was set to order but kept reading and got more confused. So the O getters are better than the dimpled (L and A frame)?

 

[gerald410]

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It's a lot more fun to read than War and Peace.  

I will give that one but there definitely is a learning curve

 

[gmahler2u]

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I know I'll be corrected on this... I am a bit confused.
 
But Amperex = Philips, but they built valves for Mullard and visa versa.
Amprex OG's were generally Holland.  The white label and 6922's New York.
 
All a bit jumbled.  Just look at the Philips Valve Codes in my prior post.
Now, I don't know if they compiled the list and everybody agreed on the Mfg code
It appears so because Siemens and Halske, Valo, and Telefunken are on the list.
 
Clearly, as an example, Philips made "French" RTC valves in Holland. 
 
To your point:
I like Amprex valves.  I paid more for the "6922 Class" valves and I believe they sound better.
I think I paid $240 for the 1960's
 
By far, by a mile, my "French" RTC's E188CC's sound... just magical.  Can't remember.  1965 I think.
They have the Big "O" getter.  I can't say enough about them.  They were made in a Philips / Amperex plant in Heerlen Holland.
I have not listened to the 3 mica stuff and above, but I can't imagine anything sounding better than these.
RTC Purchase
You must find some.  I paid $140 but most of them are almost $300.
I do not want to recommend the RTC / Mullards, until I hear them.
They are not the same as the RTC's I own now.
 
Amperex....  Early 60's  Orange Globes <$  Bugle Boys $ < 6922.
I don't have any stamped "PQ" or "SQ"  I believe those sound amazing and I believe they conform to the E188CC spec.
 
I know you have a pretty good collection.... For those starting out... IMO... pay $70 and get some mid 60's matched Orange Globes.
Those are a great value.  mercedesman usually has them.  I have 69 dimple OG's, I gave away 67' O getters to a friend.  I had Bugle Boys and found them harsh.
IMO.  It is worth paying more for "O" getter Orange Globes.  They are an excellent place to start.... or stay.  A nice elevator ride up from stock.

Thank you sure...very informative, I'll look for that RTC...right now I'm burning some siemens e188cc, it's amazing, and spectacular! they said its very close to Siemens CCa.
anyway thanks

 

[Radioking59]

Lyr newbie here, I've had mine all of 4 hours now. I bought it to replace my Asgard 2 and the results have been everything I had hoped for.

So a simple question out of curiosity: I ordered mine with the JJ E88CC's and so far so great. But how would you characterize the stock GE tubes in comparison?

I'm sure someone has covered this before, but 425 pages....

Thanks!

I haven't heard the JJs. From what I've read the GEs are a much better tube. The JJ have "non existent bass and rolled off highs." I almost did the same thing. If it costs more, it has to be better, right?

Another member got some GEs from Nebraska Surplus for under $2 a tube a month ago. They won't be matched, but I don't know if that's a problem or not.

 

[sceleratus]

My personal taste...
Get the OG's "O" getters.
Great place to start.
Best bang for the buck.
 
I think you will like them much more then dimple getters.
I certainly do.
 
The whole thing is counterintuitive.  How can 50 year old electronics sound better than today.
Trust me.  Older is better.
 
Send me the link to check it over.
 
If mercedesman doesn't back you.  I WILL.

 

[toschek]

Just rolled in the Lorenz SEL PCC189s into my SLI 80 and DAYUM SON, these sound great. IMO even better than my Telefunken cryoed 6922s.  So much air and tight right bass.  I'm sorta regretting letting my backup pair go.  Oh well, they show up on eBay frequently enough.  
 
Those SELs are a great tube for the money.  Go out and score some while the price its still reasonable!!!