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Lyr + a pair of good tubes > Mjolnir ?

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Depends on what you're looking for.  If you want tube bloom in the midrage, then yes.  If you want laser-like detail, low noise floor, and dogmatically vigilant (not my words), then no.

 

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Lyr + a pair of good tubes > Mjolnir ?

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Lyr + a pair of good tubes > Mjolnir ?

Still breaking in my stock tubes, waiting for my aftermarket headphone cables. Still enjoying the hell out of my Schiit stack (Bifrost/Lyr).
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One of us indicates cost ( Lyr + Telefunken tube) = Lyr value 450 + Telefunken value 400 = 850 > 740 USD of Mjolnir.

This might raise some argues.

 

Especially the market price of high end tube pair for Lyr ranges from somewhere 300 to 500 USD.

It is very surprising and generates some question about SS amplifier's limitation.

 

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Depends on what you're looking for.  If you want tube bloom in the midrage, then yes.  If you want laser-like detail, low noise floor, and dogmatically vigilant (not my words), then no.

 

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Lyr + a pair of good tubes > Mjolnir ?

Not a chance. But of course, it all comes down to what you're looking for preference wise, etc.

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I see now there is a good reason where the cost of Mjolnir is justified.

Some of those who had posted this thread migrated to Mjolnir for that reason.

The reason based on subtlety which usually is not expressible by numbers like THD that dictates details of sound.

Lyr is of about 0.1% whereas Mjolnir can be 0.01% without mentioning IMDs.

 

When we think that there are so many parameters to affect SQ, the preference comes down eventually to a set of number that could not be applicable uniformly to every machine set.

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Keep in mind too Mjolnir is balanced only, so you will most likely have to recable your headphones which isn't free and you will probably need a new DAC too. The Gungnir isn't recommended either as it is supposed to be bright and fatiguing.
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However I agree that decent SS amp are generally all similar.
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Just bought some Siemens, don't know which version tho lol
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Just bought some Siemens, don't know which version tho lol

 Link?

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I just received some tubes from Bulgaria .... 2 matched for $13.60 + $9 shipping .... wasn't expecting much, but these sound very good .... though the bass is overemphasized.  This makes them perfect, however for driving something like my Q701 phones, for example.  The price went up a few dollars since I purchased, but this is a very inexpensive buy.  Oh, they're Voskhod 6N1P / ECC88 Gold Grid tubes.

 

Linky


Edited by BobJS - 4/2/13 at 1:37pm
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I just received some tubes from Bulgaria .... 2 matched for $13.60 + $9 shipping .... wasn't expecting much, but these sound very good .... though the bass is overemphasized.  This makes them perfect, however for driving something like my Q701 phones, for example.  The price went up a few dollars since I purchased, but this is a very inexpensive buy.  Oh, they're Voskhod 6N1P / ECC88 Gold Grid tubes.

 

Linky

I saw those and was tempted to try them out.  Please continue to give us your impressions as they settle in...

 

Cheers!beerchug.gif

-HK sends

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I just received some tubes from Bulgaria .... 2 matched for $13.60 + $9 shipping .... wasn't expecting much, but these sound very good .... though the bass is overemphasized.  This makes them perfect, however for driving something like my Q701 phones, for example.  The price went up a few dollars since I purchased, but this is a very inexpensive buy.  Oh, they're Voskhod 6N1P / ECC88 Gold Grid tubes.

 

Linky

 

I have the same tubes.

 

I find the soundstage not very expansive compared to other tubes, but that bass warmth is very nice indeed, and the sparkly treble, a very pleasant U shape of a sound signature.

 

You'll soon find that they run very hot evil_smiley.gif

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I have the same tubes.

 

I find the soundstage not very expansive compared to other tubes, but that bass warmth is very nice indeed, and the sparkly treble, a very pleasant U shape of a sound signature.

 

You'll soon find that they run very hot evil_smiley.gif

Agreed, regarding the sound stage, in fact, regarding everything, although I haven't been running them long enough to burn anything down yet.

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Rolled in one of my Siemens CCa pairs last night. First hour they sounded flat and uninteresting. Second hour they got very linear and fast quickly. This must have been a true NOS (new/unused) pair. Not as jucy midrange as Bugle Boy 6DJ8s. Just got home and warming up my stack. These might be better for my HD600s--we will see.

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