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post #6076 of 8735

Hi guys,

 

The difference between tubes are significant enough to justify the expense?

This size of this thread can represent this quality duifference?

My Lyr has Stock GE tube, and I am considering an upgrade to 100 USD worth path.

post #6077 of 8735
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Originally Posted by Joong View Post

Hi guys,

 

The difference between tubes are significant enough to justify the expense?

This size of this thread can represent this quality duifference?

My Lyr has Stock GE tube, and I am considering an upgrade to 100 USD worth path.

 

I was under the impression that with the output transducer tube rolling effects are significantly lessened?

 

Clearly at 406 pages you guys don't agree with that lol.

post #6078 of 8735
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Hi guys, could you look at this for the compatibility with Lyr?

 

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/290614310990?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

 

 

Are you looking for socket savers?  Try these: http://www.tubemonger.com/NOVIB_Socket_Saver_with_Vibration_Red_B9A_NOVAL_p/novib.htm

post #6079 of 8735

The differences that I have heard with the limited tube rolling I've done have been what I would call dramatic.  That's going from the GE 6BZ7s that came with the Lyr.

 

I was as skeptical as you, but now I am completely convinced.

 

I was also skeptical about burn in, but now I know, at least with tubes, it's completely real!   So when you do try a new pair of tubes, give them a while to burn in.

 

This thread is there guys, all you have to do is read!  You can also search within this thread...

post #6080 of 8735

Yes I was looking for the socket saver not for the socket itself.

Thanks

post #6081 of 8735
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Yes I was looking for the socket saver not for the socket itself.

Thanks

 

I just use cheap chinese made socket savers, they work well enough for me.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-X-9-PIN-TUBE-SOCKET-SAVER-FOR-12AU7-12AU712AX7-ECC88-/290835055818?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item43b71ec4ca

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Edited by claud W - 3/30/13 at 4:54pm
post #6083 of 8735

Those are all yours?, claud W.

post #6084 of 8735

Just a few tubes to roll into the Lyr. Here is my headphone rig as assembled today. If you do not believe in cables, please do not comment.

 

post #6085 of 8735
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You have another amp or are you rolling those 12v tubes in your Lyr? i see some 12BZ7 and 12AY7.

post #6086 of 8735

claud W,

I do believe in twisted cable, because the twisting cancells out the noise and possibly the inductance related to the straight wire.

Also I do believe that intermodulation of signals with bad quality of connection and wire plating with strong magnetic materials.

 

What brand are those interconnection cables?

post #6087 of 8735
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Originally Posted by ilikepooters View Post

 

You have another amp or are you rolling those 12v tubes in your Lyr? i see some 12BZ7 and 12AY7.

My Cary V12 R uses 12BZ7s and EL84s for driver tubes. 

post #6088 of 8735
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Originally Posted by Joong View Post

Hi guys,

 

The difference between tubes are significant enough to justify the expense?

This size of this thread can represent this quality duifference?

My Lyr has Stock GE tube, and I am considering an upgrade to 100 USD worth path.

 

The differences can be significant, yes.  Significant enough to justify the expense is truly in the eye of the beholder though.   I found a difference worth almost $400 in the Telefunken 6922, they are perfect to me.  I found a difference in the Amperex 7308s that was worth $200 to me.   It was worth that to me because my music took on a different character with these tubes vs. stock.

 

I think this thread's size doesn't necessarily indicate the difference in quality of various tubes.  Rather, it probably illustrates some genuinely interesting reading, a lot of great recommendations and descriptions, some less than great recommendations and descriptions and a fair number of people on either side of the question of degree of difference fighting amongst themselves.

 

Anyway, it's a fun thread and a great resource but like everything else audio related your ears as the listener are the only ears that really count.   Take people's recommendations of course, but you're going to have to experiment with these tubes yourself for the most part to see what you like.  Hopefully you have some friends where you live that share your hobby so you can swap tubes with them and try different things, or go to a meet when there's one in your area and find your fellow tube nuts :)   I think $100 should land you some great tubes.   I would look for Brimar/Ediswan or Mullard CV2492 tubes in that price range.   They are excellent, last a good while and have a very nice warm and liquid sound.


Edited by toschek - 3/30/13 at 6:54pm
post #6089 of 8735

This thread  to me is the evolution of the Lyr over the past couple years. People pick one up, find this thread, explore tube rolling, find the tubs that fit their music and budget, then move on. New people show up, and the cycle continues.

post #6090 of 8735
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claud W,

I do believe in twisted cable, because the twisting cancells out the noise and possibly the inductance related to the straight wire.

Also I do believe that intermodulation of signals with bad quality of connection and wire plating with strong magnetic materials.

 

What brand are those interconnection cables?

The ugly interconnects are Luminous Audio Synchestra Signature and the digital coax is Stereovox. 

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