Schiit Lyr - The tube rolling thread - Page 308

Been comparing the amperex USN CEP from mercedesman with my e188cc white lable PQ tonight out of curiosity since I've seen a lot of talk about them lately.  They are both extremely fine tubes for sure (only have been listening with the LCD-2 so far since this is the closest within my reach now as I'm breakin them in).....I do feel that the e188cc will throw up a bigger soundstage and offers a bit more detail compared to the USN CEP's.  But definitely the USN CEP's have been hitting the right notes in terms of bass....that's probably the first thing I noticed putting these tubes in.  Pretty satisfied with the USN CEPs, ordered the white label amperex hewlett pacard with the D getter from mercedesman as I saw him throw up another NOS pair that measures very well.  So far I'd have to say my top tubes are the top Amperex white label tubes and the Lorenz tubes made in Stuggart (mica-2/mica-3).  The Mullards are nice and smooth (cv2492/cv2493/blackburn etc) but cannot compare to the overall clarity and dimensionality of the fore mentioned tubes.....

I dunno how some of you guys could completely give up the Lyr to go SS (I have both the Mjolnir and the Lyr).....although the Mjolnir sounds uber nice with harder to drive headphones and is just damn clean through and out.....I find myself still going to the Lyr a lot of the days since the tube sound is something SS will never replace.  Especially after a long day @ work, I need that warm tube sound therapy to relax me.

^I've found the Lyr to be better for vocals than the Mjolnir. It has the lush warmth that just makes the female voice sound sooo good.

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Originally Posted by BobJS 

You're excused for your English because you're from Findland.   'Spelt' should be spelled 'spelled' 

"Findland" -- very cute. How about find-a-dictionary. If you're not careful you'll give ethnocentric midwesterners an undeserved reputation. 'Spelled' is spelt 'spelt' if you're from virtually anywhere other than the US. 'Spelt' also predates the appearance of 'spelled' in Middle English by several hundred years. But YMMV

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Originally Posted by rlawli 

 

"Findland" -- very cute. How about find-a-dictionary. If you're not careful you'll give ethnocentric midwesterners an undeserved reputation. 'Spelled' is spelt 'spelt' if you're from virtually anywhere other than the US. 'Spelt' also predates the appearance of 'spelled' in Middle English by several hundred years. But YMMV

Yep, totally my bad.  Probawbly cuz I'm transplanted from New Yawk.  MMDV  (My Mileage Does.......)  

(Ahem) Hypothetical question to the wise tube rollers .....  if one were to say, be the proud owner of A Frame Amperex Orange Globes, and this hypothetical person were to peruse the marketplace for a set of backups,  do you think there is a distinction between 2 sets of tubes, otherwise identical, but one set 'A-Frame' and the other (whatever you call it ----) 'non-A-Frame'?

Has anyone upgraded from the M Stage to the Lyr, or directly compared the two?  I'm curious how much of an upgrade the Lyr is over the M Stage, if any.  I would be using it with K701s,.

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Originally Posted by BobJS 

(Ahem) Hypothetical question to the wise tube rollers .....  if one were to say, be the proud owner of A Frame Amperex Orange Globes, and this hypothetical person were to peruse the marketplace for a set of backups,  do you think there is a distinction between 2 sets of tubes, otherwise identical, but one set 'A-Frame' and the other (whatever you call it ----) 'non-A-Frame'?

Theoretically, the sound shouldn't be different, but the reality is opinions differ.  Some people say they sound the same and some are convinced they don't.  I err on the side of caution and buy tubes that have identical internal construction.

Cheers!

-HK sends 

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Originally Posted by BobJS 

Yep, totally my bad.

No harm done. I did consider posting this, though, with some relevant insults. 

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Originally Posted by BobJS 

(Ahem) Hypothetical question to the wise tube rollers .....  if one were to say, be the proud owner of A Frame Amperex Orange Globes, and this hypothetical person were to peruse the marketplace for a set of backups,  do you think there is a distinction between 2 sets of tubes, otherwise identical, but one set 'A-Frame' and the other (whatever you call it ----) 'non-A-Frame'?

I asked TubeHunter (Mercedesman6572) that same question and he said most prefer the D getters but he thinks the A getter is a more robust design that should absorb microphonic vibrations better. I would guess that they sound nearly identical though. 

Got my little tube thingies...

I wonder where they came from?

^^ those are tube protectors?? 

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Originally Posted by MattTCG 

^^ those are tube protectors?? 

They are highly sophisticate tube microphinics dampeners.

I know this is off topic but I had to post a tribute to the master.

Thank you Ravi for widening my ears. 

May you rest in peace.

The peace you have provided for so many others.

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Originally Posted by Iamnothim 

Got my little tube thingies...

 

 

 

I wonder where they came from?

 

 

Well, what is the verdict?  Are the tube dampers keepers?  I was thinking about getting a set for Lyr. 

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Originally Posted by bsn 

Well, what is the verdict?  Are the tube dampers keepers?  I was thinking about getting a set for Lyr. 

If I had a tube with bad micro-phonics I could tell you better.

Everything sounds crystal clear now.

So if ya have the cash and you want to light a match to it...

Go for it !

I find them aesthetically pleasing.  (Rationalizing)

I believe I have noticed a change by using a Furman AC215A power conditioner.

I found it new on Amazon for $111 that's an $80 discount.