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post #2611 of 3373

Hey gang got the matsush*ta and the mullard cv2493 last week. Both are nice sounding pairs. The matsush*ta is a little warm slightly forward and one of, if not the best bass on a 6922 I have heard.

I've read the cv2493 is not as pronounced on the low and high ends of the spectrum as its brother the cv2492, and imo it did turn out to be the most neutral sounding tube I have. Tight bass,great mids that the mullard is known for, and slightly airy highs. It's on the warm side too, but like I mentioned before none of the frequency are overly present.

The cv2493 appears to be small in stature compared to my other pairs and needs more volume to reach the same sound level as the matsush*ta.

 

Has anyone noticed on the the matsush*ta that the center image sounds off, like it's wide or pushed to the sides of the headphones. Kinda like a cross feed effect. It seems to be most notable with high def music. Just curious if someone else noticed this or if it's my chain?

 

edit.

Fyi my stagedac crossfeed is all the way off


Edited by dailydoseofdaly - 1/24/12 at 8:30am

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post #2612 of 3373

Hi,

 

Which tubes are recommended for Jazz and female vocals? I'm using the Lyr with HD-600. Looking for tubes that can make the vocals sound more warm and sweet.

 

Thanks,

ckc


Edited by ckc527 - 2/1/12 at 8:34pm
post #2613 of 3373

Anyone ever experience this noise?  It sounds like a power saw going through metal from a distant point.  Lyr's making that noise from one of my e88cc tubes, left side.

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Originally Posted by Uchiya View Post

Anyone ever experience this noise?  It sounds like a power saw going through metal from a distant point.  Lyr's making that noise from one of my e88cc tubes, left side.



 

Tubemonger wrote to me about what a tube with really bad microphonics would sound like and they described it as a high pitched howling sound. Is it a vintage pair?

post #2615 of 3373
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Originally Posted by Uchiya View Post

Anyone ever experience this noise?  It sounds like a power saw going through metal from a distant point.  Lyr's making that noise from one of my e88cc tubes, left side.


I believe that's the sound of  a dead tube. :( 

 

I dropped one of my costly Brimar CV2492 tubes on the floor a few weeks ago, doh!, and it's making the same noise now. 

 


Edited by ZorgDK - 2/1/12 at 5:39am
post #2616 of 3373

It rarely occurs.  Usually when I've left the Lyr on for too long.  Goes away after a few seconds.

post #2617 of 3373
sorry Man for the very late delay but I have been busy with my Band that I play in and other scary tubes for amps hahaha ummm I will be honest with you I do not remember now If it was to me somehow special I would still own it or it would have stuck in my head I only have umm one set of the Mullards that I have are the ECC88's they stuck in my head. not that the other Mullards are bad just I had to make alot of choices..
post #2618 of 3373
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Tubemonger wrote to me about what a tube with really bad microphonics would sound like and they described it as a high pitched howling sound. Is it a vintage pair?

ummm being micro-phonic is inherit ant to many tubes how much they are microphonic is another. Some high pitch thing is just one of the many things one way hear but some would even say microphonic tubes are ok for something like a Headphone amp as in theory there is no loud sounds around for the tubes to pic up on... Now in the Guitar Amp world there is a perfect example where Microphonic is non acceptable and for me i just replaced brand new tubes in one of my amps due to their known micro phonic qualities
Edited by MrScary - 2/4/12 at 7:18am
post #2619 of 3373
Yeah one of my Lorenz prized PCC88's started dying a early death long before it's time you can never really predict when they will fail sucks...
Edited by MrScary - 2/4/12 at 7:19am
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Originally Posted by dailydoseofdaly View Post

Hey gang got the matsush*ta and the mullard cv2493 last week. Both are nice sounding pairs. The matsush*ta is a little warm slightly forward and one of, if not the best bass on a 6922 I have heard.
I've read the cv2493 is not as pronounced on the low and high ends of the spectrum as its brother the cv2492, and imo it did turn out to be the most neutral sounding tube I have. Tight bass,great mids that the mullard is known for, and slightly airy highs. It's on the warm side too, but like I mentioned before none of the frequency are overly present.
The cv2493 appears to be small in stature compared to my other pairs and needs more volume to reach the same sound level as the matsush*ta.

Has anyone noticed on the the matsush*ta that the center image sounds off, like it's wide or pushed to the sides of the headphones. Kinda like a cross feed effect. It seems to be most notable with high def music. Just curious if someone else noticed this or if it's my chain?

edit.
Fyi my stagedac crossfeed is all the way off

The Mat's were a nice experiment for me yeah I noticed alot of weird things about them reason they were sold... godspeed
post #2621 of 3373
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Pudu, how are the 6N1Ps developing for you?

They were a bit "hot" and "brash" for my taste TBH, but maybe I should give them another spin. OTOH the 6922s HK (and MacedonianHero before that) recommends were a big leap up from the 6BZ7s and showed me how much difference tube-rolling can make with the Lyr.

YOu hit it on the head my friend yes the 6N1p's by no means are some 3D tube my old 60's pair is maybe only 25% better than the newer Russian 6N1p's they do have an odd sound .I tried these out extensively and still have a set for me they would be my last set of tubes and then I would go solid state for an amp haha thats about 7 years
away by figuring in my tube supply... the 6n1p are a nice starting point but here is nothing about them that is truly good at all..
post #2622 of 3373
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Amperex A-frame Orange Globes accentuate the HD650's strengths while adding some forward energy and dynamics. I've preferred them to the Lorenz Stuttgart, Bugle Boys, RCA's and Cryoset 6N23P for the HD650 in all iterations of my setup.

You have been saying this forever good thing I rarely check the board I would have to see you say it more... Surely not my experience and many others.. You ever going to like not say this anymore? Dear !!
post #2623 of 3373
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Originally Posted by olor1n View Post



Amperex A-frame Orange Globes accentuate the HD650's strengths while adding some forward energy and dynamics. I've preferred them to the Lorenz Stuttgart, Bugle Boys, RCA's and Cryoset 6N23P for the HD650 in all iterations of my setup.

You have been saying this forever good thing I rarely check the board I would have to see you say it more... Surely not my experience and many others.. You ever going to like not say this anymore? Dear !!


Lol. Sorry to have encroached on your domain. Let's all forget that people have individual preferences and there are wide variances in system configurations, let alone in the tubes themselves. I sometimes forget dissenting views are frowned upon here and everyone must toe the line like sheep.

post #2624 of 3373

Hey scary thanks for your feedback on my ?s. My preference on orange globes vs Lorenz happens to be opposite of olor1n. It just comes down to preference. I'm sure they sound great on his gear to him, otherwise why write about it. We need some variety on a tube rolling thread.

post #2625 of 3373

^ Thanks ddod. In fairness, I stated I preferred the Orange Globes in all iterations of my setup. That was before I replaced my dac with the Bifrost. I have yet to roll the Lorenz in this chain. My bias for the Amperex could very well shift to the Stuttgart.

 

I usually favour a warm textured sound (yes, even at the expense of transparency), so I may have to look at some Mullards or other tubes regarded as warm with extra body and weight to counteract the Bifrost's polite signature. The Orange Globes get me there partway but I want slightly better cohesion and refinement.

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