Schiit Lyr - The tube rolling thread - Page 8

Originally Posted by MrScary 


Well I listed to some Mozart at 192khz had to up the volume just a tad over the Schitt 6N1p's as the GE's were a bit lower in volume. I like these tubes a lot they have a much smoother presentation then the Schiit 6N1p's the GE's just sound better. I am going to keep these in the Lyr over the Schiit 6N1P's which are just a tad harsh with my setup. Thanks Jamato8 for the recommendation of these tubes.

Originally Posted by jamato8 

That is one thing I noticed about the later 6N1P and why I like the 1965 black flat plate I have, they can sound gritty while the 1965 doesn't. There are many versions of the 6N1P though as there is of the Amperex. Even when I get back to Tucson I don't know if I will be able to get to my 6DJ8 types as they are in the back of my storage. I think I have at least 15 pair of the GE grey glass but I would really like to get to the old 6N1P's and some Amperex that are really USSR but the best sounding 6DJ8 I have heard. It is nice that the Lyr shows up the traits of the tubes so well. Some tube circuits don't and you don't really have the influence that you might want or the ability to mold the sound, which to me, is more fun. 
 

 

Originally Posted by PurpleCow 

hey guys Im wondeirng how well does the Lyr pair with the DT880 600 ohm?

Originally Posted by Snips 

What are the differences between the Schiit 6N1P and Amperex A-frames? Given the price difference, I don't want to waste money or be left wanting.

 

Originally Posted by USAudio 
 

It's interesting, if you look at the page I linked to at the JJ website the tube is listed as "E88CC - 6922, 6DJ8", if you click on the More>> link at the top of that document it says "ECC88"  ... so it seems they're positioning their tube (perhaps incorrectly?) as a replacement for all the above.  http://www.jj-electronic.com/pdf/E88CC.pdf

The entry in Wikipedia for the 6DJ8 says:

"Although not originally designed for the purpose, it became popular in hi-fi audio amplifiers. European-produced version of the tube is designated ECC88. An industrial (improved/higher ratings) version of the tube is designated 6922."

 

Originally Posted by achl354 

IMO the Gold Lions are all-rounded, more airy and detailed

 

the 6N1P are strong and tight on the lower end, sounds more 'energized', whereas the GL sounds more polished and smooth

 

the stock tubes i cant exactly recall, but from memory they sound pretty good

 

have 2 more sets of tubes coming and will try them out and give a more detailed comparison

 

but then, each lyr + tube combo would sound different on everyone's system, to me, the Lyr is great value for $$$

Originally Posted by Skylab 

This is very typical - JJ is ignoring the "higher ratings" part of the 6922 and just saying that 6DJ8=6922.  Again, this is not strictly true, although they are close enough that it doesn't really matter that much.

Originally Posted by USAudio 

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So essentially the JJ Tesla 6922 used by the Liquid Fire and the JJ ECC88 used by the Lyr are the exact same tube?
 

 

Originally Posted by MrScary 






The 6N1p tubes from Schiit sound much better than the GL's I feel like I wasted 100.00 on the Gold Lions they are too mid centric and light on bass. Try the 6N1p's from Schiit you will throw out the GL's faster than the roadrunner
with the LCD-2's

Originally Posted by MrScary 

Want to buy another set of Gold Lions I think that for the money they are very disappointing, way to mid centric and not airy at all but again we all have different setups etc I think that for 40.00 you can get a better set off of Ebay then the GL's be it the GE's or the Russian rockets etc

Originally Posted by HK_sends 

I think I missed something...what GE tubes and where can I get them?

 

Thanks,

-HK sends

Originally Posted by Skylab 
I don't know for sure, but it seems likely.  Again, though, I am not sure there is any significance to that.  What choice does either of them really have?  I guess Cavilli could consider supplying it with Gold Lions since the Liquid Fire is a more upscale amp.  But if I were making tube amps, I would supply whatever tube I thought was halfway decent but not too expensive, knowing many people will be rolling tubes anyway.  The JJ is a decent, cheap, readily available tube.

Originally Posted by DemonicLemming 

Are the GE's also referred to as "smoked glass" tubes?  Saw some called out like that on ebay, but wasn't sure if they were the same thing.

 

This thread is doing bad things to my wallet.