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Originally Posted by McCol View Post

Spent quite a bit of time yesterday and this morning listening and comparing the Minerva's to my Ie8's.

The main difference for me with the bass response on both of these iems is that although the ie8 goes a bit deeper it does add an overall bass depth to the music(hope that makes sense!), whereas the Mi-3 present the bass in a more subtle manner, it goes deep but doesn't add the overall bassy feel the ie8 do.

An example of this I found was on the track Barbariasm begins at home by The Smiths from the Meat is Murder album. There is quite a lengthy bass solo towards the end of the song, with the Mi-3 the bass is deep and textured but doesn't overpower the cymbal and drum beat going on in the background, the ie8 bass sounds great as well, deep but not as textured or subtle as the Mi-3. The bass from the ie8 on this track does overpower the rest of the track, not in a way that spoils the track as I do love the sound from the ie8 but it isn't as detailed or subtle as the Mi-3.

One thing I will say about the Minerva's is that they don't add any colour to the music or seem to have a special sound signature, I still feel they sound similar in detail to the um3x but with a tad more depth and soundstage and to my ears the mids feel a bit more forward than the um3x(in a good way).


The IE8 has a very warm sound and the bass is enhanced.  You can get better deep bass response on the IE8 by setting the bass knob to max, which would make anything flat sound bass light in comparison.  On the other hand, I do know what you mean by the bass differences between a balanced armature and dynamic driver.  So, the question I would have about the Mi-3 is about bass roll off since you said it doesn't go as deep, or is it just because the IE8 bass is enhanced? Also, due to the human loudness curves you will perceive more deep bass from something with enhanced bass if the midrange volumes are set equal.

 

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The bass on the Mi-3 to me doesn't roll off, best way I can explain it is that to my ears the ie8 adds a warmth to the music due to the bass, sort of engulfs the whole sound. Not a bad thing as I love the sound from my ie8 and still use them for bedtime listening. The Mi-3 on the other hand present the bass as full and textured with depth, more than I've heard in any non bass centred iem. By that I mean the ie8 and the Atrio's.
Hope that makes sense I'm not great at describing what I hear!
post #18 of 22

Yes, the IE8 is very warm and that warmth puts a veil across the spectrum, but as far as deep bass, it isn't the best performer unless you turn up the bass knob.  Most customs I have heard can pump out more bass than a universal BA IEM, and also it depends on how they are tuned.  For the most part (always exceptions, right?) BA bass is more detailed/textured with faster note decay vs. dynamic driver bass.

post #19 of 22
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After reading your post I had a listen to a couple of tracks using both, and would tend to agree with your comment, the bass on the Mi-3 does seem to have a bit more detail and texture to the notes on the tracks I listened to, more subtle than on the ie8.
post #20 of 22
McColl, just wanted to say thanks for the review!

I bit the bullet on Friday with an order for the Mi-3.

I actually went out to visit their plant and they gave me a tour around. What an extremely impressive operation. Very very slick and most importantly very passionate about their products and hitting perfection.

I was most amazed at how flexible they were to any special requirements. Sure these things a custom made but I still expected them to have some set restrictions. They even gave me a choice of the new filters they are using (giving a slightly warmer sound and richer bass) or the 'analytical, true to life' option that they have used previously.

Can't wait to Get my hands on them!
post #21 of 22

Great review.  Could you offer further comments on isolation / bass depth & quantity, compared to the Shure 530.  I used to own the 530 and now 535, which although great, always leave me wanting more bass and better isolation....

 

I am contemplating selling a pair of new (boxed) SE535's to part pay for the Mi-3's.

 

 

Thanks,

GJC.


Edited by gjc10212 - 11/2/11 at 3:57am
post #22 of 22
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Great review.  Could you offer further comments on isolation / bass depth & quantity, compared to the Shure 530.  I used to own the 530 and now 535, which although great, always leave me wanting more bass and better isolation....

 

I am contemplating selling a pair of new (boxed) SE535's to part pay for the Mi-3's.

 

 

Thanks,

GJC.


Hi GJC

 

Sorry for the long wait for a reply, not been on here for a little while.

 

I owned the Shure 530's a while ago and I used to love the sound from them but found myself having fit issues with them.  For me after listening to MI-3's for a few months nowI would say that in some respects they remind me of the Shure's.

The MI-3's bass is similar, doesnt really stand out but is detailed and feels just right, more so when amped, I'm using the Just Audio u120 and it just adds a little more body to the bass than using without an amp.

 

Isolation wise the MI-3's win hands down for me, not had a pair of universals that match the isolation apart from maybe the Ety er4s.

 

Hope that helps.
 

 

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