Why is creating a playlist for a Rbox'd Clip+ so difficult?

I don't know how WMP does playlists, but I downloaded the free Media Jukebox. I build the playlist by dragging tracks into the playlist window, hook up the Clip+, and then drop the playlist into the player window. Couldn't be easier.

You do have to rebuild the database when you turn the Clip+ back on, but that's pretty quick.

Yes, it works for me.

I have had headaches trying to get playlists to work with my rockbox'd clip for gym use...should I be using 3rd party sofware?  foobar?  media monkey?  is there a decent tutorial anywhere?  I've looked and I am very computer/software saavy...I teach photoshop classes for gods sake, but making playlists for my clip+ baffles me...any and all help appreciated

This is something I've been curious about lately as well. Googled around a bit, and most responses said to reference the manual, which really wasn't helpful at all...

Firstly, you can create playlists directly on your Clip. If you hold the middle "select" button on a highlighted track while you're browsing, you are then presented with a menu where you can put that track into the active playlist. Or something, I didn't explore it too much, but I did use it a couple of times for the gym.

I also use Foobar. This is what I do. I make a new playlist in Foobar. Then I drag-n-drop my Clip music folder into it. This way I can be sure the music I'm making a playlist of is all actually on my Clip. Then I make another new playlist, called "gym" or something. Then I browse the playlist with all my Clip music in it, and drag-n-drop the songs I want on my gym playlist. Then I highlight all the songs in my gym playlist, right-click -> utilities -> save as playlist. Then I name the playlist and save it in either m3u or m3u8 format(both work) to the "playlists" folder on my Clip. Alternately I suppose you wouldn't even need to make the "gym" playlist in Foobar, instead highlighting the songs you want a playlist of from your Clip music playlist and following the same steps.

Then on my Clip I just go to the playlist section, then "view catalog", and there they are. It's actually easier and a bit less convoluted than what I just described. lol
 

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Originally Posted by seanmo 

I have had headaches trying to get playlists to work with my rockbox'd clip for gym use...should I be using 3rd party sofware?  foobar?  media monkey?  is there a decent tutorial anywhere?  I've looked and I am very computer/software saavy...I teach photoshop classes for gods sake, but making playlists for my clip+ baffles me...any and all help appreciated

 

hmm, I can't drag the music from my clip into foobar...and are you able to use the external card with this method...so frustrated with playlists

Instead of stressing over "playlists", why not create a folder containing the songs you would want in the playlist, then play just that folder?

Yes. I don't see why that won't work for you. Are you able to browse the contents of your Clip as if it were a typical external drive?
 

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Originally Posted by seanmo 

hmm, I can't drag the music from my clip into foobar...and are you able to use the external card with this method...so frustrated with playlists

 

yes I can browse the folders on my clip as if its an external drive, but I can't drag and drop into foobar...am I in the wrong drive mode?  I'm just plugging it in and the OF comes up.  Using windows 7 by the way. I have done the folder thing and it kind of works, but I had to rename and retag the files so I could use the database.  I'd just love a system that is a little more user friendly...I'm not expecting itunes ease of use, but something I can actually do without wanting to throw my DAP across the room.  It's frustrating because the rockbox forums always resort to RTFM, but the manual is not clear at all.  and again, I'm normally very software savvy.  I've been reluctant to actually sync the player since I have limited room on my laptop that I'm doing most of this on.

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Originally Posted by Selenium 

I was thinking you might be in the wrong drive mode...maybe try changing that.

I don't think Rockbox will even work with MTP mode.

Most ppl put their music in Folders and use them as Playlists.

Pros: More organized and easier maintenance of files. Universal playlists across all mp3/media players like itunes>ipods, sonys, sansas, cowons, zune, etc

Cons: None.

Isn't this going to result in you have the same file stored more than once in mulitple folders?

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Originally Posted by ikilledversace 

Most ppl put their music in Folders and use them as Playlists.

 

Pros: More organized and easier maintenance of files. Universal playlists across all mp3/media players like itunes>ipods, sonys, sansas, cowons, zune, etc

 

Cons: None.