JVC HA-FX700 review : WOODEN KING of Dynamic iems - Page 4

I use them for sleeping but to be honest I don't get much sleep when they are on!

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinoyman 

^lol, because youre focusing more on the music and not your dreams...TRUE?

Precisely 

I think someone with both the MD and FX700 should do a comparison test, if the FX700 has better seperation, speed, mids on the same level or more forward, then I guess these will be my next purchase instead of the UM3x

Quote:

Originally Posted by matto 

I think someone with both the MD and FX700 should do a comparison test, if the FX700 has better seperation, speed, mids on the same level or more forward, then I guess these will be my next purchase instead of the UM3x

If the FX700 is anything like the EX1000, the FX700 will have a better separation and speed. However, from my memory of the MD, the mids should be won hands down by the MD.

Of course, this is basing from what I have read of the FX700 and its comparison to the EX1000. Someone else that have owned both of these IEMs will be in a better position to comment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by matto 

I think someone with both the MD and FX700 should do a comparison test, if the FX700 has better seperation, speed, mids on the same level or more forward, then I guess these will be my next purchase instead of the UM3x

I just picked up my FX700s from Parcel Farce 90 minutes ago. They're running in at the moment in my office (i'm at work today). First impressions - crikey the bass depth is phenomenal! The MDTs don't come close in that department - i've never heard bass like it from an IEM.

They certainly need some time to burn-in before I can form any real lasting impressions (and I have work to do ATM). They certainly do sound mighty powerful and dynamic out of my Rockbox'd Clip + and EQU'd iPhone 4.

My new Cowon J3 32GB arrives tomorrow - I can't wait to try these with that!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hi-fi Wigwammer 

 

I just picked up my FX700s from Parcel Farce 90 minutes ago. They're running in at the moment in my office (i'm at work today). First impressions - crikey the bass depth is phenomenal! The MDTs don't come close in that department - i've never heard bass like it from an IEM.

They certainly need some time to burn-in before I can form any real lasting impressions (and I have work to do ATM). They certainly do sound mighty powerful and dynamic out of my Rockbox'd Clip + and EQU'd iPhone 4.

 

My new Cowon J3 32GB arrives tomorrow - I can't wait to try these with that!

 

 

:O waaw, where's the cheapest place to purchase these? as far as I know SEyo-shop is like $350

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hi-fi Wigwammer 

The MDTs don't come close

I don't have them side by side and never have but I owned the MDT for a short time recently. They are very nice and may be considered warmer/smoother in some instances but the Fx700 is a definite step up in just about every category, and it's much more versatile (and built better) as well. I just wish it had a longer cable, and who told them to give the extension cable (which is a good length, not too long) a right-angle plug? If anybody knows where I can find a short (2'/.5m) high-quality extension with a straight plug please weigh in!

Quote:

Originally Posted by matto 

:O waaw, where's the cheapest place to purchase these? as far as I know SEyo-shop is like $350

If that is shipped then it's not a bad price. I just saw a pair spring up on fleaBay for $380 + $20 shipping.

The MD's mids were better than the FX700's mids simply due to the fact that they were much more forward to my ears, and with good height, weight and instrument separation. In comparison, the FX700's mids are somewhat recessed. But if you take into account overall quality of sound and detail and clarity, the FX700 wins hands down. If you can't stand somewhat recessed mids, the FX700 is not for you, although details and clarity are definitely in the JVC's mids. The MD sound signature is also way more warmer than the FX700.

FX700 has reference class mids from my experience and nothing in that price range can really beat them in the mids IMO. In fact, FX700 embarrasses most high end universals I tried in articulation, micro detail and timbre accuracy. Yes, the mids are a bit laid back and can sometimes hide behind the bass a bit, but their quality is simply superb and they can be EQed a bit if you want them more forward.

FX700s mids are not recessed, almost every user will agree. It's just tricky because the bass is so big and the treble is so sharp. 

Quote:

Originally Posted by matto 

I think someone with both the MD and FX700 should do a comparison test, if the FX700 has better seperation, speed, mids on the same level or more forward, then I guess these will be my next purchase instead of the UM3x

FX700 should have better separation and speed, hands down.  MD has slightly forward, but warmer mids (and overall warmer, cozier sound/tone).  While they're both dynamics, I think their signatures are quite different, almost opposite.

I wouldn't call the FX700 mids recessed at all though, it's just neutral.  Kind of like how the SM3's treble is there, just not as prominent as the ultra mids and emphasized bass (note: comparatively though, the "lack" for the zing, lack of a better term, of treble is definitely more noticeable in the SM3 versus the "lack" of mids in the JVC, fwiw.)  With the JVC, because the bass is so dynamic and the treble rather sparkly, the mids just take a back seat, but they are definitely there and untainted in any way.  Basically the bass kicks so much as* like no other and the trebles are so shiny that in appearance, might cause some to cast and label the mids as lesser ugly duckling, but in terms of actual presence, quality and quantity, they are all supermodels and present in their prime, in full force.

Haha, I know that sounds sort of like a v-shape description, but it's not really... kind of hard to put into words what I'm trying to describe, as I wouldn't and couldn't technically label them as balanced, but they are much more balanced then some impressions of them would make them out to be. 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inks 

FX700s mids are not recessed, almost every user will agree. It's just tricky because the bass is so big and the treble is so sharp. 

Well, I spent nearly a year with this IEM (if not over), I love it  and I must be one of the few users of it who wouldn't agree. The FX700's mid is somewhat recessed. Now, it's not excessively recessed like the TF10 or D2000 to my ears, but it's recessed. I don't buy into the theory of the excessive bass makes it sounds recess because I have an IEM (1964-Q) and now a headphone (FA-011) with bass levels like the FX700, but yet neither has recessive mids. An amplifier can help bring the JVC's mid up some, but it is somewhat recessed. With that said, I won't disagree about how great the FX700 sounds as a whole. As I keep stating, it is my favorite universal IEM thus far.

meh, I guess that's how they sound at your end. Certain iem with excessive bass have recessed mids, but this is not what I hear with the FX700. Those 2 that you're listening to perhaps just have it a bit more forward than JVCs. It does have a laid back presentation due to the overall signature, but I think not many will go as far to say that it's recessed. It can really sound like that in higher volumes though, but this is a low volume relatively quiet setting iem. I think it's not recessed but it's a borderline case than can sound recessed or not depending on the volume levels which change our perception of the mids.