Cable Burn-In: A Census on Head-Fi! - Page 3

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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik 

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Originally Posted by maverickronin 

I don't think you can make gold by fission (at least by any known process) so you won't have to worry about nasty isotopes. You'd have to make it by fusion which doesn't produce nearly as much.  Unfortunately you'd probably need a spare supernova to do it...

Not if you use Coconut Audio products.

They open up wormholes and are interdimensional.

And they taste good too.

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Originally Posted by Mad Max 

That's not what I was told, but it's not something I've bothered looking into.

I suppose that could do a few atoms at a time.

Eh... Cables, Cable "burn-in", and "burn-in" in general are all VERY debatable topics all of which I don't like to debate about. Certain cables CAN be marginally better than stock wires. Whether the improvements vs. price ratio is actually worth it is beyond me. I personally don't agree with the price; however, I do notice that that there is a small improvement in SQ (especially in the high frequency. A little more sparkle from a copper to silver upgrade. Again marginal.) Also listening to my LOD, I had a standard LOD for my Ipod which had a USB (for charging) and 3.5mm jack output. This sounded HORRIBLE on all levels. Highs were sibilant, lows bled into the mids, sound stage was constricted, and mids were mushy (including all the vocals which sounded tinny to no extent). Due to financial issues (I would have bought a Picolino LOD from Steve Kelby) I had to resort to a standard L3 Fiio LOD which isn't bad. It was a MAJOR improvement. Clean lows, sparkling highs, and restored mids. So do I believe in cable to quality change. Yes.

Do I believe in cable burn in? No

Do I believe in cable corrosion?... Do you believe in age? Some don't! lol in that case No; otherwise Yes!

I think the only burn is your wallet.

^I think its common sense.  Where do you think that sparkle come from?  It hits your ears through audible vibrations.  Where does that come from?  Your headphone speakers vibrating.  How does it vibrate?  ELECTRICITY.  How does it get electricity? Cables. How do you measure electricity?  DMM, S-scopes, Analyzers.  If electricity looks the same for different cables, the speakers are getting the same amount.  

Now, do you still believe cables effect SQ?

In terms of headphone speaker burn in, I can see that happening, because there is motion there, and the physical dynamic range could change as it is used more and more.  Just common sense.

Of course there is a difference! I can even tell with a pair of cheap interconnects. Just make sure you get the flame hot enough. Once the cable melts you should be able to hear a fairly large difference -- sound just kind of dies. (I've never experienced cable burn-in, nor have I heard much difference in cables -- just aesthetics and build-quality for me.)

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Originally Posted by jerikl 

Of course there is a difference! I can even tell with a pair of cheap interconnects. Just make sure you get the flame hot enough. Once the cable melts you should be able to hear a fairly large difference -- sound just kind of dies. (I've never experienced cable burn-in, nor have I heard much difference in cables -- just aesthetics and build-quality for me.)

Ah, a common misconception. As you can see from all the cryogenically treated cables, freezing the metal actually burns it in. However, it thaws and unburns at higher temperatures - to that end, I am moving my listening room to my fridge. Will be a bit cramped, but hey, the sound is worth it.

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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik 

Burn in? For cables? That's like performing a magic ritual to summon a unicorn.

You might as well light some candles and walk in a circle backwards while chanting.

After skimming through the madness and blatant cable shilling that has saturated both the HD800 and HD650 appreciation threads, this just put a giant smile on my face.  Unfortunately, my smile was somewhat short lived as a result of my mistakenly drinking from the day old cup of coffee sitting to the left of my monitor, instead of the fresh cup on my right.  

My *evidence* is purely anecdotal, but I am now a firm believer that 24 hours burn-in does not improve drip coffee.  I suspect that a DBT would confirm this proposition, but I would rather not participate in the experiment.