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post #946 of 975
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Originally Posted by DJScope View Post

I did an AB comparison with the NX1 and the E11 and the NX1 is much better in every aspect. Even if on paper the E11 is more powerful, the NX1 is louder and keeps its power all through the volume ranges. The E11 has a dark signature and bloated bass, the NX1 is flat, transparent and has more controlled bass. NX1 has a wider and deeper sound stage and a much higher high frequency extension. Go check out the reviews in the Topping NX1 thread.
I'm going for an O2 anyways. Don't exactly need to worry about it... Although hearing it from multiple people, ill start suggesting the NX1... Not to bassheads unless it has bass boost though.
post #947 of 975
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post


I'm going for an O2 anyways. Don't exactly need to worry about it... Although hearing it from multiple people, ill start suggesting the NX1... Not to bassheads unless it has bass boost though.

 

Personally, after listening to the E11 and comparing it to other amps. I never going to suggest the E11 to anyone. It's really not as good as everyone has talked it up to be. It's actually quite bad. Topping has stated that they will be releasing the NX2 soon and the next iteration, the NX3 will have a bass boost feature. In the meantime the best ones at the moment are NX1, C&C BH(BH2), E12 (in that order) in the affordable sub $150 range.

post #948 of 975
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Originally Posted by DJScope View Post


I did an AB comparison with the NX1 and the E11 and the NX1 is much better in every aspect. Even if on paper the E11 is more powerful, the NX1 is louder and keeps its power all through the volume ranges. The E11 has a dark signature and bloated bass, the NX1 is flat, transparent and has more controlled bass. NX1 has a wider and deeper sound stage and a much higher high frequency extension. Go check out the reviews in the Topping NX1 thread.

Filo e11 is over rated. Topping NX1 beats it hands down. For all you doubting filo fans just read the reviews. Read.  Of course there's always the ones who won't let go of their filo and just be stubborn

because they made the wrong purchase and that's what they are going to like cause that's what they bought.  

post #949 of 975
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Originally Posted by Charliemotta View Post
 

Filo e11 is over rated. Topping NX1 beats it hands down. For all you doubting filo fans just read the reviews. Read.  Of course there's always the ones who won't let go of their filo and just be stubborn

because they made the wrong purchase and that's what they are going to like cause that's what they bought.  

 

Hey! Fiio makes some good products. It's just their lower range products seem to be quite poor in the sound department. I know the E17 and have done the AB comparison between the 2 (E17 through the AUX amp section only) and their amps sound identical when volume matched, NX1 a little bit boosted in the highs and lows (had to match this in the E17 with a 2db treble and bass boost in the EQ settings). Saying that, the E17 is actually much better when using the DAC: clearer, airier, more controlled, and overall more flexible and powerful. But the E17 is $100 more expensive. If I didn't care about carrying 3 devices around, I would go the NX1 with a $50-$60 DAC to go with my phone and I would be more than happy about it, AND still save about $40. But the E17 does this in one neat package. In the price range, I wouldn't buy anything of Fiio's under $100.

post #950 of 975
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Originally Posted by DJScope View Post
 

 

Hey! Fiio makes some good products. It's just their lower range products seem to be quite poor in the sound department. I know the E17 and have done the AB comparison between the 2 (E17 through the AUX amp section only) and their amps sound identical when volume matched, NX1 a little bit boosted in the highs and lows (had to match this in the E17 with a 2db treble and bass boost in the EQ settings). Saying that, the E17 is actually much better when using the DAC: clearer, airier, more controlled, and overall more flexible and powerful. But the E17 is $100 more expensive. If I didn't care about carrying 3 devices around, I would go the NX1 with a $50-$60 DAC to go with my phone and I would be more than happy about it, AND still save about $40. But the E17 does this in one neat package. In the price range, I wouldn't buy anything of Fiio's under $100.

 Well said DJ.

post #951 of 975

I'm actually leaning toward Fiio's fairly new E18. The reviews says it's a league above the E17 in terms of DAC and about the same in terms of AMP. Can also be used with Android devices for full portable DAC/AMP capabilities. It's a tad more expensive at $150 compared to about $110 for E17 (prices here). Hope this isn't out of topic but I guess it's a legitimate question to ask what amps Superlux 681 Evo and 662 would work well with. Problem here is all I can find is Fiio, the rest are $500 amps.

post #952 of 975
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Originally Posted by BeastRider View Post

668Bs are great. I don't think there are many head phones out there that can match the "neutrality" of the 668Bs. Due to being neutral though, I find them pretty boring. I like good high's and low's more than a more neutral tone. It's just a personal preference though.

Now I need to get a decent DAC/Amp for my 662s. Still leaning on Fiio because I don't have the cash for much else. smily_headphones1.gif

668B are more neutral, better for vocal, classical and jazz. Not for bassheads.

681's are all lively and the presentation varies by B, F or Null.
662's vary as well B. F or Null.

Best one of the line are the 681 Null classics, Red or Burgundy ring. If you cannot locate a pair of those, then the ProSonus HD7 (some call this the Blue Ring) is an OEM clone of the 681 Burgundy and sounds better than all the other SL cans I own.
After those, it is the 668bs as my second choice with the mods as well as changable cable. The others get little use now.

662's sound ok, but they have the SL house sound and the build is cheap - but that is why they cost so little. Ear cups on the 662 need replacement and the mods for the SL family are numerous. Closed can with that cheap build has more of a plasticy sound than the open 681 and 668's. Easy enough to mode with Blu Tack or sound proofing material to line the cups and deaden the plastic tink-tonk resonance.

A great line of cans to experiment on, modify, and explore various sound signatures, all for very little money spent.

They drive fairly well on portable amps and phones.

I modded the earcups with AKG velour pads, thinner foam, and the arch metal all ring like bells on the entire line.

I use a rubber band wound around it with a small piece of foam wedged in to retain the band. Dampens the ringing right out.

They respond well to good amplification and chain improvements.

A great way to enter the head-fi hobby.
Edited by marone - 7/20/14 at 6:00am
post #953 of 975

If someone interested to try my bass mod for HD681 (red). I am using HD681EVO pads because it's larger and sound airier. I like the sound bass is bit punchier and less boomy. Also it lowers little the bass but not too much.  Ah and the material is cotton wool pad :)

 

post #954 of 975

which of the superlux would be considered most balanced and best sounding overall?

post #955 of 975
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Originally Posted by wigglepuff View Post
 

which of the superlux would be considered most balanced and best sounding overall?

That is a difficult question. I have listened only three Superlux'es. I own two of them; HD681 and HD681EVO. What I do not own is HD660. HD681 is best sounding of these three in my opinion. Bretty balanced was probably HD660. Lacking bass and veiled middle/treble. HD681EVO was smooth treble and a bit muffled, very good middle and over powerful bass. HD681 is treble is very spiky but bass impact and speed is bit better than HD681EVO. HD681EVO is ok if you lower bass and if you lower HD681 spiky treble it becomes better than HD681EVO.

post #956 of 975
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Originally Posted by Miiksu View Post
 

That is a difficult question. I have listened only three Superlux'es. I own two of them; HD681 and HD681EVO. What I do not own is HD660. HD681 is best sounding of these three in my opinion. Bretty balanced was probably HD660. Lacking bass and veiled middle/treble. HD681EVO was smooth treble and a bit muffled, very good middle and over powerful bass. HD681 is treble is very spiky but bass impact and speed is bit better than HD681EVO. HD681EVO is ok if you lower bass and if you lower HD681 spiky treble it becomes better than HD681EVO.


I also read feedbacks from the hd668b and hd669 floating all over, but there aren't any clear comparisons or detailed feedbacks regarding how they really sound or if amped or not. :confused_face:

post #957 of 975
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Originally Posted by wigglepuff View Post
 


I also read feedbacks from the hd668b and hd669 floating all over, but there aren't any clear comparisons or detailed feedbacks regarding how they really sound or if amped or not. :confused_face:

Also HD681EVO ear pads are better than HD681. Bigger and more space for ears. I don't think they need much amping :) I have listened them with ELE EL-D01 (no amp)  and EL-D02 (amped) there is not much difference with those two. But I still prefer EL-D02 for very low budget USB DAC or sound card. Also I have Musiland 03 Dragon on my main system and those clearly benefits from very good sound card or USB DAC. 

post #958 of 975

from reviews and feedbacks all over the 668b seems to be the most balanced (I'm not a bass head). too bad I can't test any of them in my area (nothing is available) lol


Edited by wigglepuff - 8/29/14 at 9:00am
post #959 of 975
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Originally Posted by wigglepuff View Post
 

from reviews and feedbacks all over the 668b seems to be the most balanced (I'm not a bass head). too bad I can't test any of them in my area (nothing is available) lol

Yeah. What I have read that HD681 is better sound stage. I haven't listened HD668B so I can't really confirm this. 

post #960 of 975
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Originally Posted by wigglepuff View Post
 

which of the superlux would be considered most balanced and best sounding overall?


HD-668B  look no further..  ♫♫♫

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