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post #31 of 35
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Originally Posted by Lunatique View Post

Here's my latest custom EQ curve for Westone 4/4R (they are identical sounding, except for the matched drivers of the 4R).

This is only for the TRIPLE-FLANGE tip. I do not use other tips because they aren't as ergonomic or don't seal as well, and also because the triple-flange is the only tip that gets rid of most of the ear canal resonance because they fill up more of your ear canal than other tips.

This EQ curve is carefully tweaked by first referencing Tyll Hertsens' measurements (I've been waiting for him to measure the Westone 4 for years, and he's finally done it), and then meticulously tweaked by referencing pink noise and then referenced against my LCD-2 with custom EQ curve applied. I then double-check by testing with my select playlist of testing tracks I've been using for many years, swapping between the LCD-2 and Westone 4. I then triple-checked by making sure my custom EQ for the LCD-2 is in fact, still as accurate as it should be (using pink noise and test tracks), and then do another round to matching the two, and then one last round of checking the Westone 4 with pink noise tests and test tracks.

I found that for this particular case, you can't just EQ the Westone 4 based on the measurement graph, and if you do, it'll be too bright and shrill. What you should do instead, is to use the measurement graph to set your EQ points as according to the graph, and then play pink noise and take each node and restrict the movement to only vertical, and start moving it up and down so you can get familiarized with what too much and too little of that frequency range sounds like, and then set it at the spot that sounds the most even with the rest of the frequency spectrum. You do that for every node until you have a very balanced sound across the frequency range. This method is the best way to ensure you get what sounds accurate TO YOUR OWN EARS, because we all have slightly different hearing, and if you set it to sound balanced to your own hearing, then it can't get more accurate than that. 




The settings are:
150 Hz, -3 dB, 2.37 oct
5,500 Hz, +3 dB, 1.02 oct
10,000 Hz, -10 dB, 0.6 oct
20,000 Hz, 10 dB, 1.13 oct

Please use any of the free online bandwidth to Q translators if your EQ uses Q instead. 

Does this looks correctly adjusted or translated into the Accudio Golden Ears app GEQ ?



Please let me know if this is correct or wrong based on the following value:
13000 Hz, 12 dB, 0.55 oct
7000 Hz, -12 dB, 0.25 oct
40 Hz, 4 dB, 3 oct
150 Hz, -3 dB, 2.37 oct
5.500 Hz, -3 dB, 1.02 oct
10.000 Hz, -10 dB, 0.6 oct
20.000 Hz, 10 dB, 1.13 oct
post #32 of 35
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Originally Posted by JohnSantana View Post


Does this looks correctly adjusted or translated into the Accudio Golden Ears app GEQ ?



Please let me know if this is correct or wrong based on the following value:
13000 Hz, 12 dB, 0.55 oct
7000 Hz, -12 dB, 0.25 oct
40 Hz, 4 dB, 3 oct
150 Hz, -3 dB, 2.37 oct
5.500 Hz, -3 dB, 1.02 oct
10.000 Hz, -10 dB, 0.6 oct
20.000 Hz, 10 dB, 1.13 oct

That doesn't look right. Were you trying to replicate my M50 custom EQ curve exactly?

 

BTW, here's an updated version of the M50 curve--it's more accurate/detailed than the old one:

20 KHz, 10 dB, 0.35 oct

8700 Hz, -12 dB, 0.30 oct

5700 Hz, 12 dB, 0.42 oct

4036 Hz, -3 dB, 0.25 oct

3400 Hz, 4 dB, 0.33 oct

2000 Hz, -2.4 dB, 0.42 oct

300 Hz, 4 dB, 0.47 oct

130 Hz, -3.2 dB, 0.35 oct

95 Hz, 4.8 dB, 0.25 oct

40 Hz, -5.0 dB, 1.82 oct

 

 

If that sounds a bit bright for some of you, use this one instead (it's a bit more relaxed in the presence region):

Everything is the same except these two bands:

8700 Hz, -8 dB, 0.30 oct

5700, 8 dB, 0.42 oct

post #33 of 35
Hi Lunatique,

Yes, I'm trying to get "balanced" sound for my Westone W4R so I'm trying to transalte that number into Accudio app GEQ.
post #34 of 35
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Originally Posted by JohnSantana View Post

Hi Lunatique,

Yes, I'm trying to get "balanced" sound for my Westone W4R so I'm trying to transalte that number into Accudio app GEQ.

You changed the 5500 Hz to -3 dB, and added the 13 KHz and 7KHz bands. Why? 

 

If you want an accurate/neutral/natural sound, then don't add any other bands to the ones I listed, and don't change anything. I have very normal hearing, and the curve I made is based on the most reliable measurements currently available, and then slightly relaxed the presence frequency range for a non-fatiguing sonic signature that will sound great even during long listening sessions at moderate to loud listening levels. You can take my curve and compare it to the measurement at InnerFidelity and see exactly where I matched the measurement and where I made minor adjustments for a less fatiguing sound. You can also just try and EQ exactly to the measurement if your ears aren't as sensitive to the presence region.

post #35 of 35
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Originally Posted by Lunatique View Post

You changed the 5500 Hz to -3 dB, and added the 13 KHz and 7KHz bands. Why? 

If you want an accurate/neutral/natural sound, then don't add any other bands to the ones I listed, and don't change anything. I have very normal hearing, and the curve I made is based on the most reliable measurements currently available, and then slightly relaxed the presence frequency range for a non-fatiguing sonic signature that will sound great even during long listening sessions at moderate to loud listening levels. You can take my curve and compare it to the measurement at InnerFidelity and see exactly where I matched the measurement and where I made minor adjustments for a less fatiguing sound. You can also just try and EQ exactly to the measurement if your ears aren't as sensitive to the presence region.

it was a bit experiment for myself, but yes, I will try to input these values based on your Freq. Response graph on your reply above:
Quote:
20 KHz, 10 dB, 0.35 oct
8700 Hz, -12 dB, 0.30 oct
5700 Hz, 12 dB, 0.42 oct
4036 Hz, -3 dB, 0.25 oct
3400 Hz, 4 dB, 0.33 oct
2000 Hz, -2.4 dB, 0.42 oct
300 Hz, 4 dB, 0.47 oct
130 Hz, -3.2 dB, 0.35 oct
95 Hz, 4.8 dB, 0.25 oct
40 Hz, -5.0 dB, 1.82 oct

Hopefully they works for W4R.

I'm used to bright sounding IEM since I come from Logitech UE brand before :-)
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