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post #16 of 243
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Originally Posted by edisonwu View Post

This is a nice amp for speaker but not worth for using headphones only.


Actually that's not entirely true--although price is a key factor in everything--since certain headphones like the AKG K1000 and HE-6 is better driven from the speaker terminals via a pigtail for best results.

 

post #17 of 243

I had this amp before. I used it for my speaker and Sennheiser HD600. It's a nice amp for both especially driving the dynaudio C1. I sold the amp after I sold my speaker system. For the money it is better to get a full balanced tube headphone amp or if you like solid state then get a balanced solid state.

The K1000 won't drag lots of power. A single-ended triode amp is more than enough and it's technically sounding better than any push-pull design.
 

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Originally Posted by warp08 View Post




Actually that's not entirely true--although price is a key factor in everything--since certain headphones like the AKG K1000 and HE-6 is better driven from the speaker terminals via a pigtail for best results.

 



 


Edited by edisonwu - 4/12/11 at 8:00am
post #18 of 243
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Originally Posted by warp08 View Post




Clarification is expected by tonight.  If what Dan said is true, I may end up selling mine.

 


even if you like the sound of the headphone out ?
post #19 of 243

Even so.  It's a great amp, regardless.  I'm selling my Apache as well and have been thinking about getting the new RSA Dark Star when it comes out as my single balanced dynamic HP-amp.  With only 3 planar/dynamic cans remaining in my collection, I need an amp that can drive any such can.

 

Very little is known of the Dark Star yet, so I'm not sure if this would be the right choice for me, but it's just something I'm thinking of.

 

This Cary would be a prize for someone who listens to both speakers and headphones.  But I only have a bedroom rig with no room for speakers at all.

 

If I end up selling it, my asking price would be around $3,500 + shipping.  That's with $2K in tube upgrades in mint condition.  It's basically the retail price of the unit, with both the EAT tubes and the amp still being under warranty.

post #20 of 243
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Originally Posted by edisonwu View Post

I had this amp before. I used it for my speaker and Sennheiser HD600. It's a nice amp for both especially driving the dynaudio C1. I sold the amp after I sold my speaker system. For the money it is better to get a full balanced tube headphone amp or if you like solid state then get a balanced solid state.

The K1000 won't drag lots of power. A single-ended triode amp is more than enough and it's technically sounding better than any push-pull design.
 



 


I agree.  I use the triode mode with the SLI80 exclusively, instead of linear.  And the HE6 and the AKG K1K can be effectively driven out of even the RSA SR71B.  But I still prefer the added headroom the speaker terminals afford me.  Somehow it sounds better.  Can't explain it any better scientifically.

 

post #21 of 243
Thread Starter 

EDIT: CASE SOLVED :-)

The headphone out of the SLI-80 due go through the whole tube circuit...  link to post

 

 

Since the Triode and Linear sound so different, isn't that a proof that the Headphone out uses tubes? Maybe Dan just meant that the headphone out uses only the pre-amp section, for instance - just speculation. 


Edited by ardilla - 4/13/11 at 12:47pm
post #22 of 243
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Originally Posted by ardilla View Post

Since the Triode and Linear sound so different, isn't that a proof that the Headphone out uses tubes? Maybe Dan just meant that the headphone out uses only the pre-amp section, for instance - just speculation. 

Audible through the speakers tap or headphones jack?
post #23 of 243
Thread Starter 

Both. There is also a "click" through both the speakers AND headphones when flipping the switch. 

post #24 of 243
Maybe someone can take a look at the schematics to close this one up.
post #25 of 243
Thread Starter 

cary-sli80-inside-z.jpg

 

 

 

Also som even lower res pics here:

 

http://www.caryaudio.com/products/classic/building_SLI_80.html


Edited by ardilla - 4/12/11 at 11:26am
post #26 of 243
Thread Starter 

Another way to find out is to try exchanging a tube with another that is making some noise. Too bad I just threw away a noisy 6SN7..... 

post #27 of 243
Wow! Looks like a rat's nest.
post #28 of 243
Thread Starter 

They all do. Except Naim stuff... 

 

 

naim inside (Click to show)

Naim555PS.JPG

 

 

 

post #29 of 243
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Originally Posted by DjAmTraX View Post

According to Dan at Cary Audio.

 

"Yes absolutely the Exciter amp is better for headphones!  The SLI-80 does have a passive headphone output and does not run the signal through the tubes.  The Exciter amp produces a fantastic tube sound that is very detailed yet warm and smooth".


I have been notified by my dealer that the above information is correct.  Thank you for bringing this to my attention and to that of the forum.

 

post #30 of 243
That really sucks. I love the handsome looks of the SLI-80.

I saw that you listed yours on AG. Looks like a good deal.
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