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Originally Posted by WarriorAnt View Post

Ah. I'm new to computer audio.  My application Audio MIDI Setup show a rate selection up to 192 so I'm confused.


Really? Mine just shows 96, but if you have 192 then you could just plug one of these in:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002JFN1A/ref=s9_bbs_gw_d0_ir02?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1Q649E3ZRM9XFZNTB1FD&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846

 

Also I did a quick Google and I found this:

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/Trouble-192khz-output-new-Mac-Mini-Benchmark-DAC1-HDR

 

It's confusing. Evidently the hardware is capable of 192 but the OS is limiting the sample rate to 96. My usb-coax converter is 96 on my Mac so I haven't tried 192, but the unused digital (optical) audio out only goes up to 96 in my midi setup app. I am current, 10.6.7 with all updates.

 

Apple: "The headphone / line output jack accommodates digital optical audio output, analog audio output with a 24-bit, 44.1-192 kHz D/A converter, digital audio output up to 24-bit stereo and 44.1-192 kHz sampling rate and supporting encoded digital audio output (AC3 and DTS)."


Edited by grokit - 5/22/11 at 10:27pm
post #92 of 3320
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Originally Posted by grokit View Post

 


Really? Mine just shows 96, but if you have 192 then you could just plug one of these in:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002JFN1A/ref=s9_bbs_gw_d0_ir02?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1Q649E3ZRM9XFZNTB1FD&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846

 

Also I did a quick Google and I found this:

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/Trouble-192khz-output-new-Mac-Mini-Benchmark-DAC1-HDR

 

It's confusing. Evidently the hardware is capable of 192 but the OS is limiting the sample rate to 96. My usb-coax converter is 96 on my Mac so I haven't tried 192, but the unused digital (optical) audio out only goes up to 96 in my midi setup app. I am current, 10.6.7 with all updates.

 

Apple: "The headphone / line output jack accommodates digital optical audio output, analog audio output with a 24-bit, 44.1-192 kHz D/A converter, digital audio output up to 24-bit stereo and 44.1-192 kHz sampling rate and supporting encoded digital audio output (AC3 and DTS)."


Sorry Grokit I'm new to computer audio and todays DAC's. My last DAC was a THETA Ds Pre Gen III.  all I had to do was plug in the interconnects and turn it on.  I should have mentioned I'm using a W4S DAC-2 now and I'm still a little confused over all the SPDIF out.  The DAC-2 when selected in the Audio MIDI Setup allows 192K 32bit through the USB port.  Is TOSLINK better to use?

 

Sorry to derail this thread. I saw that TOSLINK statement and had to ask...

 


Edited by WarriorAnt - 5/22/11 at 10:41pm
post #93 of 3320

I think the usb on the Mac is fine, if I was to convert it would be from usb to coax. Toslink may be limited to 96k anyways, according to that CA thread I linked to so I would stick with the usb for now, your w4s should be quite capable and Macs are known for having decent usb audio.

 

You could get a silver usb cable if you subscribe to such things blink.gif


Edited by grokit - 5/22/11 at 10:45pm
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I think the usb on the Mac is fine, if I was to convert it would be from usb to coax. Toslink may be limited to 96k anyways, according to that CA thread I linked to so I would stick with the usb for now, your w4s should be quite capable and Macs are known for having decent usb audio.

 

You could get a silver usb cable if you subscribe to such things blink.gif


Edited by WarriorAnt - 5/23/11 at 3:35pm
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As long as there's a solid 24/96 USB support, it can have optical, coax, FW, XLR, pixie dust, the works. But USB is absolutely essential, as it is indeed the most ubiquitous bus there is, and not everyone has the other options on their systems.

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As long as there's a solid 24/96 USB support, it can have optical, coax, FW, XLR, pixie dust, the works. But USB is absolutely essential, as it is indeed the most ubiquitous bus there is, and not everyone has the other options on their systems.


Buy a better sound card
post #97 of 3320

MrScary - Changing the sound card isn't an option for everyone.... laptops, all-in-ones, mini PCs, etc.

 

 

Jason - 

 

My $0.02 is that simple, solid 24bit/96KHz USB is better than Schiit having to deal with drivers and all the associated issues, cross-platform compatibility, etc.     Building the USB input section on a modular card is a great idea for future-proofing, but is that realistic on the lower end models while still keeping costs down?  I could definitely see that in the higher end product.  I think having 24/96 over USB with the option to go higher via optical, coax and whatever other format you're thinking of (AES/EBU?) covers the largest overall base.

 

     -Mike

 

 

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MrScary - Changing the sound card isn't an option for everyone.... laptops, all-in-ones, mini PCs, etc.

 

 

Jason - 

 

My $0.02 is that simple, solid 24bit/96KHz USB is better than Schiit having to deal with drivers and all the associated issues, cross-platform compatibility, etc.     Building the USB input section on a modular card is a great idea for future-proofing, but is that realistic on the lower end models while still keeping costs down?  I could definitely see that in the higher end product.  I think having 24/96 over USB with the option to go higher via optical, coax and whatever other format you're thinking of (AES/EBU?) covers the largest overall base.

 

     -Mike

 

 










I should have said that better since the computer is your first point in the audio chain buy a better computer.. I have 4 laptops and not one do I use for audio. if a person is willing to buy a DAC for 500.00, then spend 500.00 for an audio workstation.
post #99 of 3320
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Sabre32 IMO. popcorn.gif



+1 on ESS ES9012 (for 2 channel).  

post #100 of 3320
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roller View Post

As long as there's a solid 24/96 USB support, it can have optical, coax, FW, XLR, pixie dust, the works. But USB is absolutely essential, as it is indeed the most ubiquitous bus there is, and not everyone has the other options on their systems.




Buy a better sound card


 

Excuse me?

post #101 of 3320
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Originally Posted by mhamel View Post

MrScary - Changing the sound card isn't an option for everyone.... laptops, all-in-ones, mini PCs, etc.

 

 

Jason - 

 

My $0.02 is that simple, solid 24bit/96KHz USB is better than Schiit having to deal with drivers and all the associated issues, cross-platform compatibility, etc.     Building the USB input section on a modular card is a great idea for future-proofing, but is that realistic on the lower end models while still keeping costs down?  I could definitely see that in the higher end product.  I think having 24/96 over USB with the option to go higher via optical, coax and whatever other format you're thinking of (AES/EBU?) covers the largest overall base.

 

     -Mike

 

 



Agreed.

 

Seems like commoners have to sell organs on the black market to be able to buy new things, because only new things work properly. LOL @ MrScary.

post #102 of 3320

It's nearly June! biggrin.gif

 

I think I'll be getting a Valhalla with my first paycheck from my new job.  Then I'll likely grab the cheaper DAC right off the bat.  It's definitely time to move up from the FiiO's... smily_headphones1.gif

post #103 of 3320
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It's nearly June! biggrin.gif

 

I think I'll be getting a Valhalla with my first paycheck from my new job.  Then I'll likely grab the cheaper DAC right off the bat.  It's definitely time to move up from the FiiO's... smily_headphones1.gif


Your Sennheisers will probably like the Asgard better, and you'd save 100 bux towards the new DAC

 

post #104 of 3320
Thread Starter 

Hey you never know... Jason might offer a "combo" deal. Hell I'm hopeful :S

post #105 of 3320
Do we know what day yet the release of the dac product info/order info will be jason?
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