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post #3256 of 3320
I installed the usb gen2 card on my bifrost and installed the drivers from schiit but it isn't bit perfect and it doesnt do 24 88.2k or 24 176.4k. The driver was called speakers: schiit

Anyone know how to fix this?
post #3257 of 3320
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Originally Posted by audiojun View Post

I installed the usb gen2 card on my bifrost and installed the drivers from schiit but it isn't bit perfect and it doesnt do 24 88.2k or 24 176.4k. The driver was called speakers: schiit

Anyone know how to fix this?

Color me off topic, but does anyone master audio for 24/88 or 24/176?

post #3258 of 3320

no they only master it for 16/44 :P

post #3259 of 3320

Schiit DSD?!?!  So many questions!  Did I miss this discussion?

 

The Bifrost FAQ on Schiit's web site says:

 

How about DSD?
We will have DSD solutions for all of our DACs in the near future.

 

Anyone know what changes they will make?  A revision to the USB board?  Does this mean that a $99 DSD Modi is coming?


Edited by Nuttinbutair - 5/22/13 at 6:39pm
post #3260 of 3320
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Originally Posted by Erukian View Post

Color me off topic, but does anyone master audio for 24/88 or 24/176?

 

First: audiojun, when you say "it" isn't bit perfect, what are you referring to?  I'm not that familiar with most Windows software (when I use Windows it's on my desktop system with a Dragonfly and XXHE), but isn't it whatever player you're using that is/isn't capable of bit perfect playback?  About the 24/88 and 24/176, I'm sorry - never had that problem.

 

24/88.2 or 24/176.4 audio often comes from SACD/DSD sources (for example, Rolling Stones downloads available from HDTracks).

post #3261 of 3320
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Originally Posted by Nuttinbutair View Post

Schiit DSD?!?!  So many questions!  Did I miss this discussion?

 

The Bifrost FAQ on Schiit's web site says:

 

How about DSD?
We will have DSD solutions for all of our DACs in the near future.

 

Anyone know what changes they will make?  A revision to the USB board?  Does this mean that a $99 DSD Modi is coming?

 

First, Nuttin, well caught.  Second, dang.  I just got done putting together a new DAC, partly for its DSD capability, and selling my Bifrost.  So the timing didn't quite work out for me.  But like everything Schiit does, I'd anticipate well designed stuff at a very good price.

post #3262 of 3320

How do I know whether I should get the USB or non-USB Bifrost? That is, what things should I consider? 

post #3263 of 3320

My two cents are if you don't have a good spdif output from your source, get the USB board.

 

If you do, the difference is relatively small and I would save your money and buy the Uber upgrade instead.

post #3264 of 3320
I am on windows 7. I have to select the bitrate myself it isnt automatic. I also dont have the option to pick 24 88 or 176. i used the offical drivers from schiit and i have usb gen 2.
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Originally Posted by judmarc View Post

First: audiojun, when you say "it" isn't bit perfect, what are you referring to?  I'm not that familiar with most Windows software (when I use Windows it's on my desktop system with a Dragonfly and XXHE), but isn't it whatever player you're using that is/isn't capable of bit perfect playback?  About the 24/88 and 24/176, I'm sorry - never had that problem.

24/88.2 or 24/176.4 audio often comes from SACD/DSD sources (for example, Rolling Stones downloads available from HDTracks).
post #3265 of 3320
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Originally Posted by Erukian View Post

My two cents are if you don't have a good spdif output from your source, get the USB board.

 

If you do, the difference is relatively small and I would save your money and buy the Uber upgrade instead.

 

Thanks, how do I know if I have a good spdif output? My source is a MBP. 

post #3266 of 3320
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Originally Posted by traehekat View Post

 

Thanks, how do I know if I have a good spdif output? My source is a MBP. 

What year? Their jitter numbers got a lot better around 2011 with around 10-20ps (very good). I would email Jason at Schiit and ask him. He's very responsive to email and I'm pretty happy with the results.

 

Oh, and you can't output higher than 24/96khz on the mac's optical out, but 99% of my music is 24/44.1, 24/88.2 or 24/96khz and don't actually listen to 24/192 audiophile records because I like good music, so I don't really care.

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post #3267 of 3320
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Originally Posted by Erukian View Post

What year? Their jitter numbers got a lot better around 2011 with around 10-20ps (very good). I would email Jason at Schiit and ask him. He's very responsive to email and I'm pretty happy with the results.

 

Oh, and you can't output higher than 24/96khz on the mac's optical out, but 99% of my music is 24/44.1, 24/88.2 or 24/96khz and don't actually listen to 24/192 audiophile records because I like good music, so I don't really care.

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Cool thanks for response! My MBP is from mid-2012 so should be good there, but I'll probably take your advice and send Jason an email. I've never actually heard anything other than 16/44.1 - how big of a difference is there between that and 24/96 or 24/192? I expect at some point I'll buy an album from HD Tracks at 24/96 and see if I can tell the difference myself, but I'd be curious to hear some other opinions. 


Edited by traehekat - 5/24/13 at 11:38am
post #3268 of 3320
Some people think they hear a difference and some don't (personally I don't).

To me the mastering makes a big difference, but I've never been able to hear a difference solely based off of bitrate or sample rate differences.
post #3269 of 3320
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Originally Posted by Defiant00 View Post

To me the mastering makes a big difference, but I've never been able to hear a difference solely based off of bitrate or sample rate differences.

 

+1, It's really all how the record is mastered. Just having higher bit-depth and a higher sample rate doesn't mean it'll sound much better (arguably if at all) than a redbook CD if it's the same master. I highly doubt people could tell with an ABX test.

 

I'd worry more about the 24/96, 24/192 and DSD stuff if you step up and spend $1500+ on Schiit statement gear DAC with super nice cans like HD-800's or LCD-3's.

 

Just one mans opinion. o2smile.gif Have a great Memorial Day weekend!

post #3270 of 3320

Appreciate the opinions guys, thanks!

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