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post #271 of 3320
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I believe Sony is running Thunderbolt via USB connector on it's latest Vaio Z.



Doesn't that kinda defeat the purpose? lol

post #272 of 3320
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Doesn't that kinda defeat the purpose? lol


I don't know, does it?  To my knowledge Apple just kind of made up their connector.  It's still running Thunderbolt speed and specs.  Sony's is running both w/ USB as well.  Everyone seems to be making it up as they go on the Thunderbolt stuff.  

 


Edited by Anaxilus - 6/30/11 at 12:48pm
post #273 of 3320

USB 3.0 is more than needed, imo its worthless since many people are still using the 2.0, I know it is backward compatible but it would increase the Bifrost price thanks to expensive 3.0 usb receiving chip.

post #274 of 3320

Well... I also think USB 2.0 must be enough for audio.. for now...

 

LightPeak (codename for Thunderbolt) was made by Intel alone. That's why besides Apple and Sony, many more companies will start using it.

 

And my laptop is a EliteBook 8530w that seems that doesn't have any SPDIF...

 

Long live to Schiit!

post #275 of 3320
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Why wouldn't you guys use the Paypal checkout? Getting charged right away or later is a big deal?


After following the JHAudio JH3A thread I'm not ready to lay out money on a preorder.
post #276 of 3320
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First, can having extra bandwidth availability hurt? 

 

And secondly, this is meant as upgradable, if USB 2.0 would already give you anything you could ever possibly need, why make it upgradable?  You never know what the future can hold, so if USB 3.0 is available, why not use it.


You are missing the point. Audio streams are quite small compared to usb 2 bandwidth. You are making a case for making a 50 foot wide river bed for a 1 foot wide stream just in case.
post #277 of 3320

Let's end this USB OT and focus on the Bifrost please! Anyone have any comments on how this dac chip (on paper anyway) compares to the Sabre everyone seems to be using these days?

 

-Daniel

post #278 of 3320
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Let's end this USB OT and focus on the Bifrost please! Anyone have any comments on how this dac chip (on paper anyway) compares to the Sabre everyone seems to be using these days?


To my ears (and some others) the AKM in my DACPort sounds like the Audio GD Sabre implementation.  Go figure.  Not sure which AKM it is though.

 

post #279 of 3320
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Let's end this USB OT and focus on the Bifrost please! Anyone have any comments on how this dac chip (on paper anyway) compares to the Sabre everyone seems to be using these days?

 

-Daniel


sounds like something for Jason to answer but I have the Sabre32 chip in my DAC and its rated at 129db which is quite a bit higher than the 108db the Bifrost is rated at. Im sure the mid level Dac and high end Dac the one Im waiting for will have a higher end DAC
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sounds like something for Jason to answer but I have the Sabre32 chip in my DAC and its rated at 129db which is quite a bit higher than the 108db the Bifrost is rated at. Im sure the mid level Dac and high end Dac the one Im waiting for will have a higher end DAC


Wouldn't it be nice if the Schiit High-end Dac was a tubed Sabre Dac..!!!

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sounds like something for Jason to answer but I have the Sabre32 chip in my DAC and its rated at 129db which is quite a bit higher than the 108db the Bifrost is rated at. Im sure the mid level Dac and high end Dac the one Im waiting for will have a higher end DAC

 

Chip rating =/= implementation rating. In fact, the EE Minimax is rated 90dB S/N through the tube output and 95 through the SS output, despite the 129dB rating of the chip.

 

AKM4399 = 123dB rated

 

Like I said, we're *very* conservative, especially on specs like this that are basically BS and benchracing.

 

And, I will not say anything more, but the real top-end will be *much* better than Sabre. Think total redefinition, not remixing what everyone else is doing.

 

 


Edited by Jason Stoddard - 6/30/11 at 5:48pm
post #282 of 3320
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Chip rating =/= implementation rating.

 

AKM4399 = 123dB rated

 

Like I said, we're *very* conservative, especially on specs like this that are basically BS and benchracing.

 

And, I will not say anything more, but the real top-end will be *much* better than Sabre. Think total redefinition, not remixing what everyone else is doing.

 

 


Ready for the pre-order on that one Jason cool.gif
post #283 of 3320
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Originally Posted by Jason Stoddard View Post


 

 

Chip rating =/= implementation rating. In fact, the EE Minimax is rated 90dB S/N through the tube output and 95 through the SS output, despite the 129dB rating of the chip.

 

AKM4399 = 123dB rated

 

Like I said, we're *very* conservative, especially on specs like this that are basically BS and benchracing.

 

And, I will not say anything more, but the real top-end will be *much* better than Sabre. Think total redefinition, not remixing what everyone else is doing.

 

 


Awesome
post #284 of 3320
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Like I said, we're *very* conservative, especially on specs like this that are basically BS and benchracing.

 


Not that you care, but I like your style, a lot.  beerchug.gif

 

post #285 of 3320

When is the high end 'beast' dac hitting? End of the year?

 

-Daniel

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