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post #1456 of 3320

@olor1n agreed!

 

@ecohifi, nope no opamp rolling. I can solder and have tinkered a bit with circuits in the past (mostly as a teenager) but TBH I'm too much a theoretician to get round to this sort of thing these days, even when I want to ;-)

 

Cheers, Andre

post #1457 of 3320

Hello,

I've had my bifrost about 6 days now. So far I think it sounds excellent. But I'm experiencing a weird problem. I'm running Windows 7, and I use Foobar as my media player, although I do work with other audio apps such as izotope and Soundforge.  I downloaded the USB drivers from the Schiit website. It appears that anytime I play files, a WAV file is created in my C: directory.

 

See this screen cap: schiitcapture.jpg

(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4026/schiitcapture.jpg)

 

One night I played about 5 hours of music, that's the 3.6GB file, my whole playlist.  These arent temp files, since they're there after I reboot.  Also of note, they are all the same bitrate, 3072kbps (which I believe is 16bit, 96khz pcm). It doesn't seem to matter that most files I played were 24/96, but also some 24/192 and 16/44. I've used several other USB DACs, never seen anything like this before. Anybody have any ideas?

 

post #1458 of 3320

I have no idea - but just out of curiousity - when you play the newly created wav files what do you hear?  Or when you say "my whole playlist" do you mean it's just making a copy of all the music you were listening to?
 

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Originally Posted by MJM72 View Post

Hello,

I've had my bifrost about 6 days now. So far I think it sounds excellent. But I'm experiencing a weird problem. I'm running Windows 7, and I use Foobar as my media player, although I do work with other audio apps such as izotope and Soundforge.  I downloaded the USB drivers from the Schiit website. It appears that anytime I play files, a WAV file is created in my C: directory.

 

See this screen cap:

(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4026/schiitcapture.jpg)

 

One night I played about 5 hours of music, that's the 3.6GB file, my whole playlist.  These arent temp files, since they're there after I reboot.  Also of note, they are all the same bitrate, 3072kbps (which I believe is 16bit, 96khz pcm). It doesn't seem to matter that most files I played were 24/96, but also some 24/192 and 16/44. I've used several other USB DACs, never seen anything like this before. Anybody have any ideas?

 



 

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Originally Posted by MJM72 View Post

Hello,

I've had my bifrost about 6 days now. So far I think it sounds excellent. But I'm experiencing a weird problem. I'm running Windows 7, and I use Foobar as my media player, although I do work with other audio apps such as izotope and Soundforge.  I downloaded the USB drivers from the Schiit website. It appears that anytime I play files, a WAV file is created in my C: directory.

 

See this screen cap: schiitcapture.jpg

(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4026/schiitcapture.jpg)

 

One night I played about 5 hours of music, that's the 3.6GB file, my whole playlist.  These arent temp files, since they're there after I reboot.  Also of note, they are all the same bitrate, 3072kbps (which I believe is 16bit, 96khz pcm). It doesn't seem to matter that most files I played were 24/96, but also some 24/192 and 16/44. I've used several other USB DACs, never seen anything like this before. Anybody have any ideas?

 



Yeah, this is happening to me and another head-fi user, as well. See this thread over in Computer Audio:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/579020/schiit-bifrost-issue-any-ideas

 

So far no solution yet - Jason was contacted by the other head-fi user, and he said they hadn't encountered it before during testing, so he's currently checking with CMedia for a solution. It seems like it's probably a driver issue to me. And yes, when you play back the WAVs, it indeed is a recording of what you've played over the Bifrost. Interestingly, though, I just played back one of them and it was a recording of the audio from a trailer on YouTube I just watched - when the Bifrost was turned OFF and my Realtek on-board audio was outputting to my desktop speakers. Really bizarre. Thankfully, it doesn't seem to effect anything if you delete the files, but they can quickly accumulate a lot of drive space - when I realized the issue, I ended up deleting a whole 30 GB. It also seems to me that it could be contributing some unnecessary latency and/or I/O by having the driver real-time encode a WAV concurrent to playback. Anyway, I'm sure a resolution will appear somehow. 

 

 

post #1460 of 3320

Received my Schiit Bifrost (non-USB version) two weeks ago.

 

headfun.jpg

 

It looks great and sounds even better. Many thanks to Jason and the whole Schiit team for the great products and the usually very quick email replies.

 

Werner.

post #1461 of 3320

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Originally Posted by internethandle View Post

Yeah, this is happening to me and another head-fi user, as well. See this thread over in Computer Audio:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/579020/schiit-bifrost-issue-any-ideas

 

So far no solution yet - Jason was contacted by the other head-fi user, and he said they hadn't encountered it before during testing, so he's currently checking with CMedia for a solution. It seems like it's probably a driver issue to me. And yes, when you play back the WAVs, it indeed is a recording of what you've played over the Bifrost. Interestingly, though, I just played back one of them and it was a recording of the audio from a trailer on YouTube I just watched - when the Bifrost was turned OFF and my Realtek on-board audio was outputting to my desktop speakers. Really bizarre. Thankfully, it doesn't seem to effect anything if you delete the files, but they can quickly accumulate a lot of drive space - when I realized the issue, I ended up deleting a whole 30 GB. It also seems to me that it could be contributing some unnecessary latency and/or I/O by having the driver real-time encode a WAV concurrent to playback. Anyway, I'm sure a resolution will appear somehow. 

 

 

 

Yep, we swapped to newer drivers on the advice of C-Media, which appear to be somewhat betaish.

 

We've since swapped the download on the site back to the older drivers (23MB, 8.2139) which have never exhibited this behavior. Try those!
 

 

post #1462 of 3320

Gorgo setup Werner! 

post #1463 of 3320
Yeah the aesthetics of your set up is absolutely astounding. The way that it's simple, uniform, and complete makes it a really great composition, and very envy worthy. My Bifrost will be here Friday, and will be paired with an Asgard, but it wont match my cans, but I can deal with that.
post #1464 of 3320
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Originally Posted by wberghofer View Post

Received my Schiit Bifrost (non-USB version) two weeks ago.

 

headfun.jpg

 

It looks great and sounds even better. Many thanks to Jason and the whole Schiit team for the great products and the usually very quick email replies.

 

Werner.




That setup looks absolutely beautiful.  I can't wait for my Bifrost!

post #1465 of 3320

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Originally Posted by Butler View Post

Yeah the aesthetics of your set up is absolutely astounding. The way that it's simple, uniform, and complete makes it a really great composition […]


Thank you for your kinds words, and thanks also to the other dudes liking my gear. But credit must be given to the product designers at Schiit Audio and Beyerdynamic for creating good looking and great sounding products. I’m just a customer :-)

 

In case anybody is interested to see more from my multi-room setup: I posted some pictures in the computer audio forum here at Head-Fi.

 

Werner.


Edited by wberghofer - 11/7/11 at 11:56am
post #1466 of 3320

Well my Bifrost arrived today!  It's my first DAC, so nothing to compare it to really.  Very easy to install the drivers and it played every different bitrate file I through at it.  I'm a happy camper!

post #1467 of 3320

That is a nice flat you have there Werner :)  ^ congrats on your bifrost Kevin!  

 

M

post #1468 of 3320

I received my USB equipped bifrost yesterday too.  Especially exciting as the tracking suggested that I would get it today instead.

 

I will let it burn in for a while before forming any opinions on it but I agree with what others have said in that it is significantly nicer than the Cambridge DacMagic.  I tried the USB using a silver usb cable playing 196 delivered source from Pure Music software and it certainly doesnt sound bad at all.  I think that it may add extra weight to female vocals but the optical, even at only 24/96(limited by the MAC), is cleaner sounding.  This is just my quick thoughts from an initial listening session so I cant say that they are confirmed as yet.

 

The interesting thing that did go through my head though, apart from glorious Schiit delivered tunes, was that I was thinking of my need to upgrade further.  I was sitting back thinking that Mac, Pure Music 1.85, Bifrost to Lyr to Hifiman HE6 was a great combination.  How much extra quality could I get for the money?  Then I thought....Gee Jason may have done himself out of future sales by creating his entry level products that do such a fine job.  I was very happy indeed with my current rig.

 

Luckily....senses kicked in an hour later and I thought...yes the volume could handle being run at 10-12 rather than 12-2 and I wonder what Jason's uber Dac will do if this is the base model....  I am hooked in...again!!

 

 

post #1469 of 3320
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Originally Posted by Jason Stoddard View Post

Quote:

 

Yep, we swapped to newer drivers on the advice of C-Media, which appear to be somewhat betaish.

 

We've since swapped the download on the site back to the older drivers (23MB, 8.2139) which have never exhibited this behavior. Try those!
 

 


Just between you and me, Jason, did you tear anyone a 'new one' over at C-Media ? I've worked in IT for many years, and I know what its like to be on both ends of that phone call  wink.gif

 

Appreciate your honesty about this snafu, btw - there are many companies who would simply say 'It would appear that you have a corrupt driver installation - just download the drivers from our website and re-install', and that seems to become more prevalent the larger a company becomes.

 

post #1470 of 3320
Quote:
Originally Posted by wberghofer View Post

Received my Schiit Bifrost (non-USB version) two weeks ago.

 

headfun.jpg

 

It looks great and sounds even better. Many thanks to Jason and the whole Schiit team for the great products and the usually very quick email replies.

 

Werner.



Yeah, they really got the styling right on their gear. I just got a Lyr, and despite being happy with my current source I find myself considering a Bifrost at least partially due to the aesthetics of the stacked pair. 

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