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Originally Posted by RazorJack View Post

If you're going to compare the Schiit Bifrost against Meier's Stagedac, I'm looking forward to reading your impressions! 



 

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Originally Posted by leesure View Post

So the USB-equipped-unit ship date slipped again?  I thought they were supposed to start shipping late last week.  Am I remembering wrong?  Does 'we expect to start shipping the first USB units this week.' mean Monday or Friday?

 

Sorry for the impatience, but I sold my last DAC 6 weeks ago in anticipation of getting the Bifrost and it's getting....well...you understand.


Latest info from Jason is that the usb boards are not in shop yet, but they expect to have cleared all Bifrost pre-orders within 2 weeks.

Another tidbit most probably expected, but it came up in conversation was that the statement Dac will not use tubes. Also it is not too far from being done as it was actually the first one Mike started on. It will likely be announced Q1 2012. After hearing the Bifrost in my home I can't wait to hear the statement.
Edited by Maxvla - 10/16/11 at 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by Jason Stoddard View Post

Hey all, quick update:

 

1. Shipping of Bifrost backorders continues to be slow--apologies again for the wait.

2. However, we expect to start shipping the first USB units this week.

3. All backorders will be cleared out in less than 2 weeks, by our current guesstimates.

 

A conspiracy theory on which units we sent first? Well, uh, no. How would we know what DACs our customers have? It's not like we can map their real names to their forum handles. Here's how we ship Bifrost:

 

1. Oldest orders first.

2. Non-USB first, because that's what we have.

3. USB units ASAP.

4. Review units.

 

Again, sorry for the wait, but we'll be catching up more quickly now.

 

 


Hey Jason,

 

how about if you dont ship the USB version by this week ya reckon you could keep customer satisfaction by shipping it free!!!!

LOL

 

To think I haven't even ordered one yet!!!!

 

Just kidding
 

 

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Really?



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 send one free to downunder!!!!!

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To Echohifi- I think we agree about components, cables and that sort of thing. They do make a difference. I experiment as time and money permit. And while I am symphathetic to the argument that wire is wire, when I tried a $100 Shunyata power cord to my amp and heard the results, well, theory had to put its tail between its legs and slink away.

 

Would I spend $500 or $1,000 for a power cord or an interconnect? Not until I win the lottery. But moderately priced cables, cords and a power conditioner have brought real benefits that I enjoy nearly every day.

 

When it comes to equipment such as DACs, and the fellow with the AudioEngine speakers (hope I got that right) asking if the upgrade makes sense - well, if the speakers can convey the differences between, say, low sampling rate MP3 files and AIFF or hi-rez files (or CDs), then they are good enough to let you hear the effect of a new DAC. The question of value is yours to answer.

 

My current DAC is a PS Audio DL III with phase 4 mods by Cullen Circuits, and I've enjoyed it greatly. But I suspect the Bifrost will be different and potentially better because (A) it is built according to a different philosophy, and (B) it's simply newer. As someone else pointed out, digital gear is changing and advancing at an astonishing rate.

 

For me, the owner of a Lyr, the Bifrost is a worthwhile experiment. Jason said mine should ship Monday, so hopefully by Wednesday I'll know for sure.

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If you're going to compare the Schiit Bifrost against Meier's Stagedac, I'm looking forward to reading your impressions! 



 

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Originally Posted by Jason Stoddard View Post

Hey all, quick update:

 

1. Shipping of Bifrost backorders continues to be slow--apologies again for the wait.

2. However, we expect to start shipping the first USB units this week.

3. All backorders will be cleared out in less than 2 weeks, by our current guesstimates.

 

A conspiracy theory on which units we sent first? Well, uh, no. How would we know what DACs our customers have? It's not like we can map their real names to their forum handles. Here's how we ship Bifrost:

 

1. Oldest orders first.

2. Non-USB first, because that's what we have.

3. USB units ASAP.

4. Review units.

 

Again, sorry for the wait, but we'll be catching up more quickly now.

 

 



Thanks for the update Jason, and please disregard the lone voice from Crazytown. If there is one absolute on Head-Fi, its that you wont be able to please all of the nutters any of the time. Just keep pumping out kit at the prices you have been and people will beat a path to your door. 

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Originally Posted by 29twenty View Post

how come all the early reviews are people coming from MUCH lesser dacs? marketing scheme? of course all initial reviews are glowing if theyre comign from portable/sub 150$ dacs. if it is marketing... its genius.  people im sure always talk to schiit about their gear and how theyre excited, etc.  if i were a company, id take that to my advantage.  ship out early units to early orders with much lesser gear.. get the early word + extra sales out. then send the rest. 

 

make any sense? or just over thinking things... u be the judge.



I realise that post count ain't everything, but for someone with 3 posts to his name you certainly seem happy to wade into a thread with both feet firmly in your mouth. Thanks for playing. 

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Br777's point that DACs can be hard to compare at the best of times is well made. However, I'm happy to do what I can within sensible limits. Also following Br777's lead, there are three straightforward impressions to give, to wit:

a) it sounds a lot "worse" 

b) it sounds a lot "better" 

c) about the same and it will take a lot more time to say in what ways exactly

 

Obviously even (c) will be a good outcome given the price ratios compared to StageDAC and especially MiniMax.

 

I emailed Schiit concerning the Paypal problem - it's all fine. BTW, Jason answered within about 6 hours, on a Sunday!

 

So, all being well I hope to have some sort of report in perhaps two weeks...

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[...] I emailed Schiit concerning the Paypal problem - it's all fine. [...]


I am sorry, I must have missed it, but what PayPal problem are we talking about here? I am simply curious.

 

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I am sorry, I must have missed it, but what PayPal problem are we talking about here? I am simply curious.

 



Probably the same thing that shows on my account info at Schiit: My PayPal authorization is shown as expired, but I'm not certain about the timing (does it auto-expire after the initial authorization to prevent re-charging?), and I'm still shown as being in pre-order status, with an order number, so that seems to indicate things are OK.  However, I would also like to know, rather than bugging Jason, what the answer is that AiDee received.  Do I need to authorize re-charge of my credit card, or do I just sit tight at current status and everything will be all right?

 

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Sit tight.

The same thing happened to me.  I got an email from Schiit saying I needed to re-authorize my Paypal credit with a link.  I did that and my Bifrost was shipped the next day.  I'll bet the same happens to you when it's ready to ship.

 

Now if it didn't take FedEx 8 days to traverse the country I could tell you how it sounds!

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Hope to get a tracking number within this week :) order: #30 non-usb.  Been waiting since late June. About time to get a proper dac now. 

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Originally Posted by AiDee View Post

Br777 - I think highly of the MiniMax too. It's my preferred headphone DAC ATM, with the StageDAC preferred with my speaker rig. I actually think the MM pairs better with Jan's Concerto than the StageDAC (hope he's not reading this <grin>).

 

I'll certainly post a comparison once I get the bifrost - but that might be a while...hmm, maybe I'll contact Schiit and tell them to go ahead and re-charge if they have to


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Like many I suppose I logged in (about 3 days ago) to check status. Still on preorder (I'm order 101, non-USB), and a note similar to judmarc's.

 

Then logged into paypal where there was a message the order had expired - they probably have a time limit - and I would need to contact Schiit.

 

Honestly, I wasn't sure this would be a real problem. Might be just procedural. However, I knew my card's expiry date had passed and I was a bit slow updating it at paypal. I emailed Schiit to check, in view of the interest in the MiniMax & StageDac. I wouldn't have bothered Schiit otherwise. Jason was responsive as usual. Looks like there's no problem.

 

For judmarc and others in this situation, I emailed:...I have a message in Paypal saying 'the order as expired' and I need to contact you. This may be just normal process, but *just in case* please go ahead and re-charge if you have to.

 

Jason: No worries, we'll contact you when we're ready to ship.

 

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Originally Posted by Hero Kid View Post

I am sorry, I must have missed it, but what PayPal problem are we talking about here? I am simply curious.

 



 

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