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post #31 of 43
3/28/11 at 12:31pm
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What TI chip is in your express card? I think I'll try to find a PCMCIA with the same as a backup


my x61t uses the same chip as the t61 at any rate. There's posts with people using the t61 ricoh successfully with a firestudio, which seems promising.


Edited by MrGreen - 3/28/11 at 12:34pm
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post #32 of 43
3/28/11 at 12:35pm

My firewire card uses TI XIO2200.

 

Yeah T61 and X61 use pretty much the same HW.

 

Edit: I have come to look at firewire audio cards and firewire controllers as a pair, a good interface for professional studio equipment is a must aparantly.


Edited by Adda - 3/28/11 at 12:38pm
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post #33 of 43
3/28/11 at 4:29pm

If you want to make sure you can use your firewire card in the future, you could buy a express-card 34 firewire card and one of these http://www.delock.com/produkte/gruppen/PCMCIA/Delock_PCMCIA_CardBus_adapter_to_Express_card_34mm_61570.html

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post #34 of 43
3/29/11 at 10:09am
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Hm. Focusrite have said that they have had success with Ricoh chipsets - the guy I was speaking to actually has a ricoh chipset in his machine that works. Echo has said they "got many reports of it not working with ricoh", although they said they've never received reports of things 'working' on any chipset (since it goes unreported). They also said they've tried it out with the PCMCIA method, and it works with no problems. I think I'm going to have to find a store that will let me test both. I'm actually leaning towards the focusrite, because, although it has inferior specs, they're very close, above CD (well above most mics), and it comes with pres and inst ins so I wont need to fork out for a DI or preamp. The echo is aesthetically more pleasing, and seems more functional, at any rate (since I like a box with very few potentiometers).


 

 

 

 

 

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post #35 of 43
3/29/11 at 10:15am

I recommend you go for the card you like the most and get a firewire card if needed.

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post #36 of 43
4/1/11 at 2:21am
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The more I research, the less certain I become. It turns out that the Audiofire 12 doesn't support multi-client audio (i.e. You cant have ableton and a standalone synth run at the same time). I'm currently not sure how much of a dealbreaker this is for me - I have to wait till I get acquainted with putting battery 3 inside ableton, and other things first.

 

To their credit, their pre-sale customer service has been top notch so far. Novation has been okay, but slower.

 

I'm also having a suitable preamp/DI for the audiofire for guitar and bass guitar - as i Just need it to go straight to line level.

 

Fmeh.


Edited by MrGreen - 4/1/11 at 2:22am
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post #37 of 43
4/1/11 at 4:52am

Hmm I never noticed this before, but my AudioFire2 only supports a single ASIO output stream, even though the card behaves as if it where three soundcards in one.

This is what you mean by multi-client audio right?

It can be done using DS though, but that's not optimal, maybe ASIO4ALL + native AudioFire ASIO would do what you want?

My experience with Echo has been pretty good, their support line is quick and helpful, but they need to release a driver that doesn't require tinkering to work.

 

Edit: no that ASIO4ALL trick would output through a different output then the native ASIO stream...

Some DAW's can work as a plugin though, and that could solve the problem.


Edited by Adda - 4/1/11 at 4:56am
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post #38 of 43
4/1/11 at 5:01am

Aaah, the more I think about it the more I doubt the DAW as plugin way would work, I only use FL Studio and only need one good output stream.

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post #39 of 43
4/1/11 at 6:06am
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I think I could get it working with virtual audio cable, or rewire, or a similar program. However, that's less than ideal. More appropriate than patch cables, though.


I need to use asio for latency reasons.


Edited by MrGreen - 4/1/11 at 6:11am
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post #40 of 43
4/1/11 at 8:05am

Ah something like jack on Linux right? that should work.

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post #41 of 43
4/4/11 at 10:04am
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Okay, I think I'm going to go the focusrite pro 40 and later add a second if I need 16 ins eventually or go higher end if I dont. I chose this because, all though it has inferior AD/DA converters, it has more usability out of the box (inst, mic and line levels), there are fewer complaints about the gear on ricoh chipsets, the support guy I have contact info for actually uses a ricoh chipset, it's cheaper ($300 or so vs $500 + DI + preamp vs $900 for the liquid saffire) and it apparently can be used multiclient (or via the rewire way I mentioned earlier). I think there wont be that much of a difference sonically between the two anyway, because I don't really put a huge emphasis on dacs these days - considering anything I distribute would likely be 16 bit FLAC, which means that even the saffire has ~13dB of headroom over the CD format (undithered).  I'll post again when I have the unit to say how everything ended up going, but it might be a while before I get it, as I'm currently stalking potential synth and master controller bargains on ebay - and I cant afford all three at the moment. I can't really afford to shell out for a firewire interface + a DI + a preamp of great quality - especially if there's no guarantee i wont have to upgrade hardware at a later date.

 

I'll likely upgrade in the future when I finish uni and get a higher paying job, but probably to a piece of gear that is higher end than both.


Edited by MrGreen - 4/4/11 at 10:13am
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post #42 of 43
4/4/11 at 2:22pm

Just don't pull your hair out if you end up needing a firewire card ;)

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post #43 of 43
7/18/11 at 3:44am
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Yo, just one final update. Snapped up an audiofire 12 from echo. Works fine with my firewire, despite being ricoh 

 

Here's the asio performance (click free)

 

Audiofire 12


Edited by MrGreen - 7/18/11 at 4:22am
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