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post #16 of 39

If you listen at the office and want good sound insulation in both directions, along with truly natural bass (in terms of quality, meaning transparency and speed, along with fine depth), try Edition 8s if you can manage it.

I've also got the D7000s and agree with your impressions, and feel that the sound of the Ed. 8s is at a higher level in all of the areas you speak of.

(I never heard other Ultrasones other than my Ed8s.)

The bass of the Ed.8 makes the D7000 bass sound somewhat one-note in comparison. (This is relatively speaking, and I just feel the Ed8's bass has much more tonal shading

and a kind of friendly impact and great localization to the objects that produce them.)

The D7000s are very comfortable and light, true, but the Ed8s are comfortable in their own way, with a narrower ear-surround and bit higher clamping force, but nothing overdone,

and I got used to them quickly for multi-hour sessions, and they are very light. I would give the D7000s a nod to overall comfort not only of the the Ed. 8, but to most if not all phones out there.

Very nice, professional review you did there! I enjoyed it.

post #17 of 39
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Uhh, the bass isn't enhanced, its subdued. @_@

FWIR, you get less bass, more tightening of it, allowing for more mid presence. I don't see this as an issue with the D7000, nor would I ever want less bass from them.


When I see "tighten" in a description I feel like it takes loose bass and make it more pronounced = noticeable but I could be wrong. I am hoping J$ pads will have better seal = less leak = more sound in = more of everything including bass going into my ears. Would I be wrong in assuming that? I hear V1 and V2 have better seal than V3.

 

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Originally Posted by rgs9200m View Post

If you listen at the office and want good sound insulation in both directions, along with truly natural bass (in terms of quality, meaning transparency and speed, along with fine depth), try Edition 8s if you can manage it.

I've also got the D7000s and agree with your impressions, and feel that the sound of the Ed. 8s is at a higher level in all of the areas you speak of.

(I never heard other Ultrasones other than my Ed8s.)

The bass of the Ed.8 makes the D7000 bass sound somewhat one-note in comparison. (This is relatively speaking, and I just feel the Ed8's bass has much more tonal shading

and a kind of friendly impact and great localization to the objects that produce them.)

The D7000s are very comfortable and light, true, but the Ed8s are comfortable in their own way, with a narrower ear-surround and bit higher clamping force, but nothing overdone,

and I got used to them quickly for multi-hour sessions, and they are very light. I would give the D7000s a nod to overall comfort not only of the the Ed. 8, but to most if not all phones out there.

Very nice, professional review you did there! I enjoyed it.

 

LOL, it's been less than 12 hours since the review and someone managed to whet my appetite once again.

Me being an Ultrasone fan makes it even more appealing! I don't think I can swing the price for now but it's nice to have something to look for as those sound like one awesome pair of phones. I always thought they were close to being flat, but better than D7000? I am sold!

post #19 of 39

Yeah, I have several top phones, and somehow the Ed8s are at the top of my list. Just IMHO, but I feel the sound quality is on par with R10s overall, with better vocals and upper mids and more sonorous.

post #20 of 39
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Yeah, I have several top phones, and somehow the Ed8s are at the top of my list. Just IMHO, but I feel the sound quality is on par with R10s overall, with better vocals and upper mids and more sonorous.


That's funny as I was reading about R10 yesterday evening :)

How does bass on ED8 sound compared to D7000? Comparable or less, both in quality and quality?

 

post #21 of 39

The ED8 sounds very nice to me overall, but it doesn't quite satisfy the basshead in me. Bass quality is good, but it doesn't have the quantity/punch to match the Pro900 or D7000 IMO.

 

Although, I've found the positioning on the head does affect the bass and I can't help thinking if I had a fatter head I'd be getting more bass due to a tighter seal.

post #22 of 39

I crave good bass myself, both quantity and quality, and the Ed8 is fine in this respect with my B52 tubes.

Of course, I think the worse bass combination is lots of quantity and bad quality (leading to muddiness or boom).

Better I think to have less bass than bad bass.

But the Ed8 has lots of transparent, very pleasing, refined bass.

The D7000 bass is good quality also, but the Ed8's bass has a more solid sound to me, with firm grip, and no hint of wavering, plumpness,

or boom-box/car-stereo character. The bass takes about 24 hours to burn in, (and there is actually too much of it at first), but then mine

fell into place perfectly down in those frequencies.

Don't get me wrong, I like the Denons and find them musical with no obvious flaws and can happily listen to them for hours, but the Ed8s have that great mix of realness, liveness, but still with

pleasing softness and lack of stridency, hardness, or aggression.

post #23 of 39

With regard to the D7000s lack of seal, have you tried rotating the pads to find the best fit? I have had Denons in the past and the rotation of the pads was very crucial. Just thought I would ask!

 

Cheers.

post #24 of 39

can you really feel the bass on the pro900? Will the vibrate yoru ears from the air being pushed out beneath the cups? At least more so than the M50. 

post #25 of 39

Get Beats by Dre if you want that.

post #26 of 39
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Get Beats by Dre if you want that.



....no

post #27 of 39

You might as well.  Wanting enough bass pressure to vibrate your pads is kinda ridiculous.

post #28 of 39

OP:

I'm in the middle of my D7000 review as well (which I compare to the Pro 750's), and I have to say, I agree with you in quite a few areas. The bass gets *way* better the more you listen to the D7000's. It makes the Ultrasones sound flabby and overdone. One thing I've noticed that really gives more quality to the bass is a more powerful amp. I know it's a sensitive headphone, but using a USB powered amp didn't do it for me. When my amp broke, and I was forced to replace it with my surround sound receiver, I noticed the bass was tighter, stronger, and bolder. It really turned into the best bass I've ever heard.

 

 



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Originally Posted by fluffygdog95 View Post

With regard to the D7000s lack of seal, have you tried rotating the pads to find the best fit? I have had Denons in the past and the rotation of the pads was very crucial. Just thought I would ask!

 

Cheers.



This, finding the right seal really helps in the comfort and leakage departments. :)

 

 

 


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Originally Posted by WakiDabeast View Post

can you really feel the bass on the pro900? Will the vibrate yoru ears from the air being pushed out beneath the cups? At least more so than the M50. 


Yes, very visceral cans, the Pro series.


Edited by Taowolf51 - 1/27/12 at 10:44pm
post #29 of 39
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Originally Posted by WakiDabeast View Post

can you really feel the bass on the pro900? Will the vibrate yoru ears from the air being pushed out beneath the cups? At least more so than the M50. 



PRO900, hands down for sure, have more bass than M50 and higher quality to boot.

I think it's easier to "feel" the bass on phones with boomy and loose bass, which doesn't equal to quality.

So probably not to the level you're looking for, but it is enough to satisfy most bass heads looking for quality bass.

TMRaven wasn't too far off when he said Beats if your desire is to "feel" the bass. For hard hitting, tight bass, PRO900 will kick Beats' ass all day long.


Edited by Dougeefresh - 1/27/12 at 10:46pm
post #30 of 39
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Originally Posted by Taowolf51 View Post

OP:

I'm in the middle of my D7000 review as well (which I compare to the Pro 750's), and I have to say, I agree with you in quite a few areas. The bass gets *way* better the more you listen to the D7000's. It makes the Ultrasones sound flabby and overdone. One thing I've noticed that really gives more quality to the bass is a more powerful amp. I know it's a sensitive headphone, but using a USB powered amp didn't do it for me. When my amp broke, and I was forced to replace it with my surround sound receiver, I noticed the bass was tighter, stronger, and bolder. It really turned into the best bass I've ever heard.


 

I used to run them with E7/E9 combo and now I run them with Asgard/Bifrost. Bass level has gotten lower a bit but it's tighter and cleaner now. I listen to D7000 about 80% of time and when I need a bass fix, I bring out the PROs.

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